Confused

[Pete999]

I'm going to ask what might sound dumb coming from someone of my age and experience, I don't do much now and have done very little in the way of domestic installations, having spent much of my time on commercial or industrial work, thats not to say I don't know how to install domestic electrical installations. The confusion lies with junction boxes under the floors of houses during a rewire, many moons ago on a social housing project we wired everything lighting wise, back to a central point on the first floor, and connecting the lighting points and switches in a large junction box, likewise if we needed to add a 13a socket we would sometime break into the RFC with a 30a JB fitted to a noggin under the floor. My question is, is this still allowed? I mean fitting a JB under the flooring and forming a trap, where possible in the floor boards.

 

[Hawkmoon]

Hmm, I see what you mean. Still, if you're finding it difficult maybe you could retrain as a plumber? At least that way you'll only have to drill through things.

Lol - it's because people are finding it 'difficult' to make off 3 plate light fittings that they want to feed switches!!! - err pot calling kettle black???

 

[imago]

I don't find it difficult, and I didn't say I did? So does that make you the pot and the kettle then?:yesnod:

I find that the deeper back box makes a better job and has less potential to cause damage. I don't run neutrals to switches because there's no call for it on the properties I work on. I also said (in the post you didn't read properly) that it's unlikely that future changes will require neutrals at switches because technology will leap frog that requirement.

 

[Hawkmoon]

I don't find it difficult, and I didn't say I did? So does that make you the pot and the kettle then?:yesnod:

I find that the deeper back box makes a better job and has less potential to cause damage. I don't run neutrals to switches because there's no call for it on the properties I work on. I also said (in the post you didn't read properly) that it's unlikely that future changes will require neutrals at switches because technology will leap frog that requirement.

If you don't advocate the use of feeding switches without reason (as me) then why the hostile post???

Regarding this - less potential to damage what exactly?

 

[uksparks]

I have a friend, I think he's confused too, but that's another confused, still single at 32, never been in a relationship, fantasizes about women out his league, he claims he has something he needs to deal with in his own time..

Oh well, ill leave him to it!

 

[wozz]

Not condescending at all, I was responding to this and gave my view of the problems - am I not allowed an opinion then?

If you can't see how it was I'm not explaining.

You are entitled to your opinion.

As as I said before are we talking about the specific situation you mentioned?

 

[Hawkmoon]

I have a friend, I think he's confused too, but that's another confused, still single at 32, never been in a relationship, fantasizes about women out his league, he claims he has something he needs to deal with in his own time..

Oh well, ill leave him to it!

lol - sounds like me, but a bit older than 32!

 

[Pete999]

Women confuse me

 

[Hawkmoon]

If you can't see how it was I'm not explaining.

You are entitled to your opinion.

As as I said before are we talking about the specific situation you mentioned?

No, what this thread is about is the question of whether it is acceptable to have a screw terminal JB under a trap in floorboards (check post 1) - What makes YOU think you have the monopoly on how the thread should go???

 

[wozz]

I didn't did I. I read the last few pages and made a comment on what was being discussed, you then start talking about a 120 year old house.

I have no monopoly and no interest in this thread anymore, so crack on.

 

[specs]

No it doesn't, but once you have multiple switches in one back box you get a lot of cables.
Especially when people insist on using 1.5 for a 6A cct instead of 1.0

of course you get a lot of cables, which is why I use deep boxes and box extenders IF required and if I can't get them all in I use a bit of 2 x 1 and tap them into position with my lump hammer this way they are always at the back of the box leaving plenty of room to fit my dimmer, I always use undersized dimmers because they produce heat which help to mould the cables into the back of the box, and they help to save the planet, cos you don't need to turn on the central heating , it also keeps the fire brigade in work.

 

[specs]

Really is the way Forward?? ...Jesus wept!!

yes I did, but I forgive you .I ,, admit (grudgingly ) that 3 plate has its uses, but nearly all my work these days is refurbs with dropped ceilings and down lighters and I find it easier to use neutrals at sw. IF multiple switching is required I simply increase the depth of the back box. Every thing is in one place and no hidden jb's.