current 2391 course information

[AlexGoode]

hi, currently doing 2391 course and getting told on a periodic that the only tests you have to do as minimum are zs and rcd, anyone else been taught to do this. tutor shows guidance note 3 and in as way you can relate to it but jut doesn't sound right signing a house off after only being there half an hour?

 

[Pete999]

That's 3 times you have asked that question Mate

 

[AlexGoode]

3 times-where?

 

[Diver233]

What section of guidance note three does it say that ?

 

[AlexGoode]

The purpose of periodic inspect and test is to provide an ENGINEERING VIEW ...A detailed VISUAL INSPECTION is required with appropriate tests. the results are mainly to confirm DISCONNECTION TIMES ARE MET as stated in Chapter 41

 

[Diver233]

Not what I was told but hey ho, everyone wants everything instantly.
Not sure you’ll pass the 2391-51 exam just doing that, but would be interested if you do

 

[AlexGoode]

not saying I agree with it either but that is what will get us passed the exam...

 

[Blissof89]

I did my 2391-52 a couple weeks ago and we did full tests for each circuit unless we came across a fault.

 

[Diver233]

The 5 pages of the ELECTRICAL INSTALLATION CONDITION REPORT is going to look a bit empty just doing two tests.
I’d ask the tutor to put it in writing that on the practical if you just test zs and RCD you will pass. If I remember correctly it’s a two hour practical exam.
Not sure what you’ll do for the other 110 mins after just the two tests.

 

[Diver233]

Just saw this old list for the 2391 exam, this is what they recommend as minimum testing

 

[Deleted member 26818]

hi, currently doing 2391 course and getting told on a periodic that the only tests you have to do as minimum are zs and rcd, anyone else been taught to do this. tutor shows guidance note 3 and in as way you can relate to it but jut doesn't sound right signing a house off after only being there half an hour?

Sorry, that is incorrect.
The minimum is a Zs test.

 

[Diver233]

Hello SpinLondon,

Alex and I are not talking about testing in the field where you may have faults or issues doing all the tests. We are talking about in the actual 2391 exam what tests will you have to do to pass the exam.
I would be gob smacked if anyone could walk into the test pod and just do a simple Zs test sign the paperwork walk out and pass the practical, but I am happy to be proved wrong.

 

[AlexGoode]

Sorry, that is incorrect.
The minimum is a Zs test.

So what I have been told is fine then if you say the minimum is zs

 

[AlexGoode]

Hello SpinLondon,

Alex and I are not talking about testing in the field where you may have faults or issues doing all the tests. We are talking about in the actual 2391 exam what tests will you have to do to pass the exam.
I would be gob smacked if anyone could walk into the test pod and just do a simple Zs test sign the paperwork walk out and pass the practical, but I am happy to be proved wrong.

I am talking about in the field,more just domestic properties when they just want a simple cert. Where gn 3 days meet8g disconnection times and appropriate tests, all that would require is rcd test and zs with a thorough inspection

 

[gazdkw82]

On the practical test you will required to complete a full series of tests in the correct order for the initial verification and a selection of tests for the periodic (if not all the tests again)

In real life, most on our course admit they only Zs and RCD test most circuits. A few said they confirm RFC continuity aswell.

It seems it's a common theme. Maybe its pressures on time or just the deal (sample rate) that was agreed with the client