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hi, currently doing 2391 course and getting told on a periodic that the only tests you have to do as minimum are zs and rcd, anyone else been taught to do this. tutor shows guidance note 3 and in as way you can relate to it but jut doesn't sound right signing a house off after only being there half an hour?
 
The purpose of periodic inspect and test is to provide an ENGINEERING VIEW ...A detailed VISUAL INSPECTION is required with appropriate tests. the results are mainly to confirm DISCONNECTION TIMES ARE MET as stated in Chapter 41
 
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Not what I was told but hey ho, everyone wants everything instantly.
Not sure you’ll pass the 2391-51 exam just doing that, but would be interested if you do
 
The 5 pages of the ELECTRICAL INSTALLATION CONDITION REPORT is going to look a bit empty just doing two tests.
I’d ask the tutor to put it in writing that on the practical if you just test zs and RCD you will pass. If I remember correctly it’s a two hour practical exam.
Not sure what you’ll do for the other 110 mins after just the two tests.
 
hi, currently doing 2391 course and getting told on a periodic that the only tests you have to do as minimum are zs and rcd, anyone else been taught to do this. tutor shows guidance note 3 and in as way you can relate to it but jut doesn't sound right signing a house off after only being there half an hour?
Sorry, that is incorrect.
The minimum is a Zs test.
 
Hello SpinLondon,

Alex and I are not talking about testing in the field where you may have faults or issues doing all the tests. We are talking about in the actual 2391 exam what tests will you have to do to pass the exam.
I would be gob smacked if anyone could walk into the test pod and just do a simple Zs test sign the paperwork walk out and pass the practical, but I am happy to be proved wrong.
 
Hello SpinLondon,

Alex and I are not talking about testing in the field where you may have faults or issues doing all the tests. We are talking about in the actual 2391 exam what tests will you have to do to pass the exam.
I would be gob smacked if anyone could walk into the test pod and just do a simple Zs test sign the paperwork walk out and pass the practical, but I am happy to be proved wrong.
I am talking about in the field,more just domestic properties when they just want a simple cert. Where gn 3 days meet8g disconnection times and appropriate tests, all that would require is rcd test and zs with a thorough inspection
 
On the practical test you will required to complete a full series of tests in the correct order for the initial verification and a selection of tests for the periodic (if not all the tests again)

In real life, most on our course admit they only Zs and RCD test most circuits. A few said they confirm RFC continuity aswell.

It seems it's a common theme. Maybe its pressures on time or just the deal (sample rate) that was agreed with the client
 
Appreciate all the tests are to be carried out during the exam but couldn't understand when he said on site you should only take half an hour in a house. Just said you will have a lot of lims on your schedule of results. Even not bothering with rfc
 
In domestic installations, it would be very rare that you would not be able to isolate any of the installation.
In commercial or especially medical installations it is quite common.
I remember once in a Solicitor’s office, isolating a lighting circuit caused the receptionists computer and phone system to stop working.
She was not a happy bunny.
 
Basically being told talk g covers of etc and disconnecting conductors introduced a risk 're installing them. Periodic is def8ned to give an engineering view on the state if the installation as installed. Also told if you do work and there is no bonding then you just have to note it
 
Yes.
You are required to check whether the existing Earthing and Bonding arrangements are sufficient for the protective measures you intend using.
Lack of Bonding will not prevent fuses MCBs or RCDs operating, will not prevent placing out of reach, barriers, double insulation, SELV or PELV, etc from working.

Not sure about AFDDs and SPDs?
 

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