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[Darkwood]

Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

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I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago. mg_smile:

 

[Vards0]

Rate my consumer unit !!

 

[westward10]

How much more should I shift this cable.

 

[littlespark]

Rate my consumer unit !!


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I don’t think the neutral bar should be floating around like that.

 

[Aaron b]

 

[littlespark]

yes, thats pretty standard when it comes to old wiring.

Did you get it tidied up? Bit of sleeving? Job's a good 'un

 

[Aaron b]

yes, thats pretty standard when it comes to old wiring.

Did you get it tidied up? Bit of sleeving? Job's a good 'un

Was only replacing it for a usb type. Managed to squeeze some wagos in there. It's a pain in the --- for dead testing having them all twisted like that.

 

[telectrix]

combi drill in reverse, soon untwist that pile of crap.

 

[Aaron b]

They had the green goo in the lights too.

 

[Aaron b]

combi drill in reverse, soon untwist that pile of crap.

I didn't think of that. I was slightly concerned the wago's weren't going to fit and I didn't have any extension things with me to just hack them off.

 

[littlespark]

Did Wago's grip the stranded cable ok?

id have cut off and restripped a clean bit of conductor... twisted them individually, and put the 3 into the back of the socket.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Says here suitable for solid, stranded and flex: Wago 41A 3-Way Lever Connectors 30 Pack - https://www.screwfix.com/p/wago-41a-3-way-lever-connectors-30-pack/755HV?

 

[DPG]

Says on here suitable for solid, stranded and flex: Wago 41A 3-Way Lever Connectors 30 Pack - https://www.screwfix.com/p/wago-41a-3-way-lever-connectors-30-pack/755HV?

The 222 type are also OK for stranded.

 

[littlespark]

Im sure they are fine for stranded cable, but freshly stripped back, clean and neatly twisted stranded cable..... not that!

 

[Mike Johnson]

Pretty sure they should not be twisted after stripping if putting into a Wago?

 

[Dustydazzler]

i'd bet on poor contact of plug fuse .

Almost certainly , intermittent arcing when switched on

yes, thats pretty standard when it comes to old wiring.

Did you get it tidied up? Bit of sleeving? Job's a good 'un

Nearltly all old stranded house wiring I come across has had the sh!t twisted out of it ...

 

[Aaron b]

Yeah I use the 221 5 ways, you have to use the lever instead of forcing it in with stranded. I cut it back and it was twisted neatly when I stripped it. The conductors weren't long enough unfortunately so needed extending. Technically it was two spurs from one point I suppose and I could of used lots of two way ones.

 

[Mike Johnson]

You should always use the lever with a Wago that has that facility, the days of forcing in a cable are a while ago and the old type of Wago, in fact I don't think they make them anymore, certainly I can't find them on their web site, but TLC still have them, in preference I would always use the lever type.

 

[123]

You should always use the lever with a Wago that has that facility, the days of forcing in a cable are a while ago and the old type of Wago, in fact I don't think they make them anymore, certainly I can't find them on their web site, but TLC still have them, in preference I would always use the lever type.

You still get the push fit style Wagos, they have a couple ranges of them at least - the 2273 are newer and smaller, and there still is the 773 series

 

[LewisM]

Pretty sure they should not be twisted after stripping if putting into a Wago?

True however with flex sometimes you have to as you tend to get spider legs, I always give em a tug and if they don't pull out then they won't fall out.

 

[ipf]

How much more should I shift this cable.View attachment 99877

Who drilled and tapped that set screw into the solder?

 

[westward10]

Who drilled and tapped that set screw into the solder?

Which screw the one with the earth on it?

 

[ipf]

Which screw the one with the earth on it?

Yeah, it's on the banjo, I know...but it does look like it screws into the solder..

 

[westward10]

Yeah, it's on the banjo, I know...but it does look like it screws into the solder..

It is a banjo a strange set-up but it is rock solid. Look lower down there is the original braid.

 

[Raptor0014]

Some high quality skillz on show here. DIY Dave has out done himself with this job!

 

[littlespark]

If you needed a tool, (ie, a hammer) to access that space…. Can it be classed as an enclosure??

 

[Dustydazzler]

So they over clad the original ceiling by the looks , I often find those big transfomers feeding a bunch of 12v spot lights wired like that using twin flex and connector block

The issue is often getting to the transformer which is often inaccessible without mashing a hole somehwere

 

[Raptor0014]

So they over clad the original ceiling by the looks , I often find those big transfomers feeding a bunch of 12v spot lights wired like that using twin flex and connector block

The issue is often getting to the transformer which is often inaccessible without mashing a hole somehwere

It’s a good job I’m only 6ft and 15st. Otherwise it would have been a really really tight squeeze to sort it. Instead of just the really tight squeeze it was!

But I did just about did it, without cutting the ceiling. Now I just need to clip the cables with some fire clips as best I can and wire in the new downlights.

 

[littlespark]

I’m 6’, and there’s no way I’d be fitting in there without taking most of the ceiling down….

 

[Raptor0014]

I’m 6’, and there’s no way I’d be fitting in there without taking most of the ceiling down….

I used plenty of cable lube.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Funny , I used to work with a sparks who was about 6'2" and about very heavy set but he managed to crawl into spaces you wouldn't believe possible...

I sometimes had to pull him back out by his ankles

 

[Mike Johnson]

Hope that Artex did not contain Asbestos.

 

[Raptor0014]

Hope that Artex did not contain Asbestos.

I didn’t lick it this time as hadn’t long since had lunch, so should be ok…

 

[Mike Johnson]

All very well being flippant about it, but that ceiling coated in Artex had been Drilled, punctured and cut and could have released fibres into the loft space, I hope at the minimum you wore a mask when in the loft.

 

[telectrix]

All very well being flippant about it, but that ceiling coated in Artex had been Drilled, punctured and cut and could have released fibres into the loft space, I hope at the minimum you wore a mask when in the loft.

 

[Raptor0014]

All very well being flippant about it, but that ceiling coated in Artex had been Drilled, punctured and cut and could have released fibres into the loft space, I hope at the minimum you wore a mask when in the loft.

I always wear a mask when in lofts. 99% of the time around my way they all seem to have the old fibreglass in which gets everywhere.

 

[Aaron b]

Unfortunately British gas install the yellow stuff as part of there free energy saving stuff. The brown knauf stuff is much better. Masks and overalls in lofts is poop in good weather.

 

[telectrix]

thankfully my crawling days in lofts is over for good. i get my lung poison from Marlboro these days.

 

[Dartlec]

Just isolate a couple of wall lights before plastering, the builders said....

3 of these in a small house covering every light fitting. Was probably once quite neat and labelled - but had been added to over the years. Probably looked very neat back when it was all wire nuts...

Still, did avoid lifting many floorboards, so I can see the advantages of the system, if fully labelled!

 

[littlespark]

Still, did avoid lifting many floorboards, so I can see the advantages of the system, if fully labelled!

And accessible.

Was there a screwed hatch in front of it…..

Is there still a screwed hatch in front of it???

 

[Raptor0014]

Doing an EICR and found this. Newish build too at 3yrs old. Owner never had any paperwork prior to today and it’s going to be rented out.

Novel way to use a cooker socket for a gas hob igniter. So the gas hob is on a 32a circuit of its own. Plug wired in 6mm

Cooker/oven is on its own 16a radial with the fridge.