My MCS reg installer does not think my 4KW system needs registering with the DNO !

[MickF]

Re: My MCS reg installer does not think my 4KW system needs registering with the DNO

SSE Power Distribution - Stage 1 process
SSE Power Distribution - Stage 2 process
SSE Power Distribution - Less than 50kW

Their site is not particularly helpful, they use the ENA documents as published by the ENA (their links go directly there ...)

Oh... and they want a special format for the subject line (which they don't tell you on their website ...)

 

[cbw]

Re: My MCS reg installer does not think my 4KW system needs registering with the DNO

UK power networks confirm all notifications by email, this confirmation goes in all hand over packs that we do, keeps it all above board

Copy of recent one.

Thank you for your communication.



The email address [email protected]
is for G83 Commissioning Notifications only.



Please accept this as our acknowledgement of your email.



If you have sent an Application to connect a single installation which
exceeds 3.84kW per phase, you need to contact UK Power Networks via the
email address [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>

or call on 0845 234 0040.



If you need to apply for Multiple Installations (i.e. G83 Stage 2
Process) please complete the form "APPLICATION FOR PRIOR DISTRIBUTOR
CONSENT FOR CONNECTION OF MULTIPLE INSTALLATIONS", which is available on
our website at:
http://www.ukpowernetworks.co.uk/products-services/networks/pdf/G83_mult
iple_installation_application_form.doc



Best regards,

 

[Brixnmorta]

Re: My MCS reg installer does not think my 4KW system needs registering with the DNO

Thanks for all your comments, my installer now confirms he will register my system.

 

[provr6]

Re: My MCS reg installer does not think my 4KW system needs registering with the DNO

UK power networks confirm all notifications by email, this confirmation goes in all hand over packs that we do, keeps it all above board

Copy of recent one.

Thank you for your communication.



The email address [email protected]
is for G83 Commissioning Notifications only.



Please accept this as our acknowledgement of your email.



If you have sent an Application to connect a single installation which
exceeds 3.84kW per phase, you need to contact UK Power Networks via the
email address [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>

or call on 0845 234 0040.



If you need to apply for Multiple Installations (i.e. G83 Stage 2
Process) please complete the form "APPLICATION FOR PRIOR DISTRIBUTOR
CONSENT FOR CONNECTION OF MULTIPLE INSTALLATIONS", which is available on
our website at:
http://www.ukpowernetworks.co.uk/products-services/networks/pdf/G83_mult
iple_installation_application_form.doc



Best regards,

Sorry, but are we saying that only installations above 3.84kw need to informed to the DNO or does it apply to all installations no matter how small?

 

[cbw]

Re: My MCS reg installer does not think my 4KW system needs registering with the DNO

All installations.

What they are saying there is anything above 3.84 needs to be notified/permission obtained from a different department G59

 

[Earthstore]

Re: My MCS reg installer does not think my 4KW system needs registering with the DNO

Sorry, but are we saying that only installations above 3.84kw need to informed to the DNO or does it apply to all installations no matter how small?

Just to clarify
Systems up to 16A (3.68KWP) can be installed then notify the DNO after installation (unless you are installing multiple systems in the same area), this is under G83 rules, the installer has 28 days including the day of installation in which to do this.

Systems over 16A (3.68KWP) will need permission prior to installation from the DNO,
this is under G59 rules.

I am aware that some DNO's will except up to 4KWP under G83, but this is not the norm.

For those that may not be aware the DNO is the district network operator, that is the people that run the grid in your area, they may not be your energy provider, or your FIT provider, as you are free to choose who you pay your electricity bills to and who to register you FIT with.

I hope this helps.

 

[provr6]

Re: My MCS reg installer does not think my 4KW system needs registering with the DNO

I spoke to an electrician friend of mine (not the installer) and he reckons it's the customers responsibility to notify the DNO. From what I've read above that dosen't seem feasible.

 

[SolarCity]

Re: My MCS reg installer does not think my 4KW system needs registering with the DNO

I would suggest that your electrician friend is perhaps getting confused with the FIT application which does indeed need to come from the customer.

The DNO notification must come from the installer as, as has been previously mentioned, there is a declaration signed by the installer.

 

[provr6]

Re: My MCS reg installer does not think my 4KW system needs registering with the DNO

I said the same thing to him and he was well aware that the DNO had to be notified and said he clearly points it out to his customers they should do it.

I'm sure you are right though, if it requires an installers declaration, then the customer obviously can't comply with this requirement.

Do you think that the DNO will allow you to notify them now that 28 days have passed, or is there a chance they will say too late, thanks for telling us now disconnect it! even though it isn't causing a problem to the grid.

Not sure whether to let sleeping dogs lie or tell them now to avoid a possible problem in the future.

 

[SibertSolar]

Re: My MCS reg installer does not think my 4KW system needs registering with the DNO

Interesting feedback from UK Power Networks posted above - are they using 240vac as the nominal grid voltage? Some DNOs appear to be using 230vac......which do you guys recognise as being correct? This can have an impact on the G83 type test certification of the inverters in use....

 

[matt25]

Re: My MCS reg installer does not think my 4KW system needs registering with the DNO

Western Power Distribution definitly allow up to 3.9kWp systems under G83 and also send a confirmation letter to us everytime, we then pass a copy onto the client. To test if this was correct i once sent them a G59 application up front, only to be told to send G83 doc when the project was completed, I like WPD!
My bet is that it depends on who you talk to or who process's the paperwork, not right but that seems to be the way of the world lately

 

[provr6]

Re: My MCS reg installer does not think my 4KW system needs registering with the DNO

Is there a database where you can check if your system has been notified to the DNO?