Our first property - seller says CU is older than 2005 - no cert required

[Benuk]

Hi all

We're moving in to our first property - it's a 1950's build. The house has been bought buy a property developer who bought it from the previous owner so that they could purchase a new build (part ex).

We had a survey done recently and one of the things that has come up is the lack of any kind of electrical certificate for the consumer unit. The property developer's solicitors have said that the previous owner had not had any electrical work done since they moved in (pre 2005) and as such a certificate was not required.

Fortunately I had the foresight to take some photos of it whilst I was there and to me it certainly looks newer than something that would have been installed 13-odd years ago. It is a split load MK CU with RCD etc. It's a metal box which as far as I'm aware is a recent requirement (17th edition?) and may not have even been available pre-2005. I've attached a couple of pictures to this email.

In my opinion some DIY'er or whoever has installed this unit without being qualified and obviously not able to supply a cert. But that's just my opinion - any help on identifying the year of this model would be appreciated.

Kind regards,

 

[Squid]

The Squadron Leader sounds like a Yank?

These sound more Polish,

 

[elsparko]

Agreed,it seems much of the very important messaging that needed the best of security was conveyed in Welsh in both world wars

one of the most important messages of ww2 was stuck in a homeless guys pocket after they dressed him up in british officer clothes, dumped the body at sea and eventually it found its way into german intel, the note in the pocket was part of the decoy plan for d-day

 

[elsparko]

How a dead tramp fooled Hitler - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11887115

strangely enough, the bloke was a welshie!

 

[telectrix]

remember that. the film was "the man that never was" if i remember.

 

[elsparko]

remember that. the film was "the man that never was" if i remember.

sure i heard that the germans tried to build a wooden invasion force to try and fool us, the RAF apparently dropped a wooden bomb on it LOL

 

[HandySparks]

one of the most important messages of ww2 was stuck in a homeless guys pocket after they dressed him up in british officer clothes, dumped the body at sea and eventually it found its way into german intel, the note in the pocket was part of the decoy plan for d-day

Nothing to do with D-Day. It was the invasion of Sicily.

 

[elsparko]

Nothing to do with D-Day. It was the invasion of Sicily.

was it? my mistake

 

[telectrix]

think the deception was to fool the krauts that it would be greece.

 

[Des 56]

How a dead tramp fooled Hitler - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11887115

strangely enough, the bloke was a welshie!

His name was Glyndwr Michael born in Commercial street Aberbargoed,where he lived until he was 13

In the film that was on TV recently it shows his father giving permission to use his body, however,both his parents died by time he was 13, he left to live in London where he eventually deid living rough on the streets a few years later

There is a memorial to him at the war cenotaph in Aberbargoed
The house he lived at was was owned by my brother before this story of who this "man who never was" was made

It was a weird historical event,one where the hero of the event never knew of his part

 

[elsparko]

His name was Glyndwr Michael born in Commercial street Aberbargoed,where he lived until he was 13

In the film that was on TV recently it shows his father giving permission to use his body, however,both his parents died by time he was 13, he left to live in London where he eventually deid living rough on the streets a few years later

There is a memorial to him at the war cenotaph in Aberbargoed
The house he lived at was was owned by my brother before this story of who this "man who never was" was made

It was a weird historical event,one where the hero of the event never knew of his part

from what i remember being told the british spies wanted to find an an adult who had once been an orphan and was found dead of causes that they could fashion his corpse to look like he had drowned if the germans did an autopsy on him

they also invented a whole backstory for him didnt they? alot of effort went into it anyway

hitler could have done everyone a favour and put the bullet in his nut in 1939 though

 

[Benuk]

So they had an electrical survey done Friday and we now have the report. It has noted that there has been electrical work done in the last 5 years but has stopped short of mentioning the consumer unit. The seller is pretty much demanding we sign over on Monday, but I'm still unsure as to the legal status of the CU.

I'll post the survey here if I'm allowed (will obviously remove the surveyors name etc)

 

[Dillb]

Can you post a copy of the report on here too. Be intrestong to see what they actyally done and if its of any relevance to the regs.

 

[bailes1992]

If the survey was done by an electrician that he picked I would say no. You have no idea what kind of deal went on!

 

[Dillb]

If the survey was done by an electrician that he picked I would say no. You have no idea what kind of deal went on!

Lets see the report first before making assumptions

 

[Spoon]

The seller is pretty much demanding we sign over on Monday,

Let them demand all they want... This is a big purchase and you should not sign anything until you are 100% happy

 

[GeorgeCooke]

It looks quite a tidy job, on the outside, to be honest, maybe done as a result of a cash only job with no certificate, not sure of the date, but if you are worried insist on an Electrical Installation Condition Report, (EICR) could be around £250:00 but who pays is unsure, as I have no information as to the state of the purchase.

It has always been up to the the buyer to pay for surveys etc.