The simple job of a new ceiling light

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screechyboy79

Has me in a state of confusion...

We live in an early 80's house so the wires coming from the ceiling are 3 red, 3 black (one with blue tape, assuming they ran out of red) and 1 earth. Our new ceiling light has 3 blue, 3 brown and 1 earth.

I have tried a multitude of combinations and have failed to get the light to work at the same time as the switch i.e if the light does come on the switch does nothing. Other attempts have stopped other lights downstairs working correctly.

Could you possible advise how you would deal with this situation? I feel like i have tried nearly every combination.

Thanks in advance
 
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MDJ said:
the three reds do not connect into the light, the black with the blue tape is the live and the other 2 blacks is the neutrals
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I get that, the one with the tape is the switch live, but why on earth does it have so many other wires that he says are coming from the ceiling??
being a student ive only ever seen 3 wires in a lamp, does then the other connect and goes off to another lamp as a switch loop feed?
 
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The new ceiling light has 3 blue and 3 brown and 1 earth with a blue and brown terminating in 3 bulbs.

There are two switches in our living room which used to operate the old light independently.

So I will place:
the reds together not connected to the light.
black with blue tape into the brown from the light.
black with no tape into the blue.

Correct?
 
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screechyboy79 said:
The new ceiling light has 3 blue and 3 brown and 1 earth with a blue and brown terminating in 3 bulbs.

There are two switches in our living room which used to operate the old light independently.

So I will place:
the reds together not connected to the light.
black with blue tape into the brown from the light.
black with no tape into the blue.

Correct?
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Sounds like a good place to start
 
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Definately a DIY question, where is the team when you need them
 

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Chrisuk said:
A more experience member will help but red is now brown and black is now blue
I know behind the socket you would have 3 brown on a 2 way, 1 common and L1 and L2(strappers)
for 1 light you would have the usual Neutral, Line and CPC, did 3 lights used to come on when using the switch?? because if its only 1 light then surely it would be just 3 wires in total
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Trying to get him more mixed up, eh?
 
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Tried as previously suggested and pictured (attached)

All the other lights work downstairs but this one does nothing looks like its NYE by candle light in our house.
 
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screechyboy79 said:
The new ceiling light has 3 blue and 3 brown and 1 earth with a blue and brown terminating in 3 bulbs.

There are two switches in our living room which used to operate the old light independently.

So I will place:
the reds together not connected to the light.
black with blue tape into the brown from the light.
black with no tape into the blue.

Correct?
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just go get an electrician in will you...
 
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screechyboy79 said:
Has me in a state of confusion...

We live in an early 80's house so the wires coming from the ceiling are 3 red, 3 black (one with blue tape, assuming they ran out of red) and 1 earth. Our new ceiling light has 3 blue, 3 brown and 1 earth.

I have tried a multitude of combinations and have failed to get the light to work at the same time as the switch i.e if the light does come on the switch does nothing. Other attempts have stopped other lights downstairs working correctly.

Could you possible advise how you would deal with this situation? I feel like i have tried nearly every combination.

Thanks in advance
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so if it were an early 90s house what colour would they be?
 
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My understanding electrical wiring particularly the wire colors have changed quite a bit over the last 30 years i wanted to give someone who wanted to help me some idea of time in which my house was wired.

Honestly, normally you get abuse for not providing enough information!

Thanks to everyone who provided a sensible answers/opinions or suggestions, I think its time to hand over to an electrician.
 
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screechyboy79 said:
My understanding electrical wiring particularly the wire colors have changed quite a bit over the last 30 years i wanted to give someone who wanted to help me some idea of time in which my house was wired.

Honestly, normally you get abuse for not providing enough information!

Thanks to everyone who provided a sensible answers/opinions or suggestions, I think its time to hand over to an electrician.
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the only really sensible thing you have come out with throughout...

better to be safe than sorry....
 
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screechyboy79 said:
My understanding electrical wiring particularly the wire colors have changed quite a bit over the last 30 years i wanted to give someone who wanted to help me some idea of time in which my house was wired.

Honestly, normally you get abuse for not providing enough information!

Thanks to everyone who provided a sensible answers/opinions or suggestions, I think its time to hand over to an electrician.
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Abuse, or a bit of mickey taking. In all honesty, why are you attempting to carry out the task without a little common sense. You bring it on yourself so just take it. I'm sure the vast majority of people in the trade have had to take it at some stage in the past, so stick your chin out.
 
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Thought an electricians forum might be able to offer me advice and solve the problem, that's what you are here for right? I was hoping to get this working without the expense of an electrician if it was not necessary, lesson learnt there for sure.

This not the first time I have fitted a new ceiling light but I wouldn't be on here if i wasn't in need of some assistance this time. Had some very useful and friendly replies to start with shame about the unnecessary levels of sarcasm and attempted whit toward the end.
 
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screechyboy79 said:
Thought an electricians forum might be able to offer me advice and solve the problem, that's what you are here for right? I was hoping to get this working without the expense of an electrician if it was not necessary, lesson learnt there for sure.

This not the first time I have fitted a new ceiling light but I wouldn't be on here if i wasn't in need of some assistance this time. Had some very useful and friendly replies to start with shame about the unnecessary levels of sarcasm and attempted whit toward the end.
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wrong!!
 
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screechyboy79 said:
Thought an electricians forum might be able to offer me advice and solve the problem, that's what you are here for right? I was hoping to get this working without the expense of an electrician if it was not necessary, lesson learnt there for sure.

This not the first time I have fitted a new ceiling light but I wouldn't be on here if i wasn't in need of some assistance this time. Had some very useful and friendly replies to start with shame about the unnecessary levels of sarcasm and attempted whit toward the end.
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well it is necessary....

stop being tite...
 
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@ibf I'm really not sure how asking for advise on this forum is bringing it on myself, I have done what I can with the knowledge and tools that I have and was asking if anyone here felt that I had made a glaringly obvious mistake.

Clearly I have not as thus far nobody has been able to identify the problem.
 
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screechyboy79 said:
@ibf I'm really not sure how asking for advise on this forum is bringing it on myself, I have done what I can with the knowledge and tools that I have and was asking if anyone here felt that I had made a glaringly obvious mistake.

Clearly I have not as thus far nobody has been able to identify the problem.
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eh?....

so i guess its all our fault now is it...

a standard response from someone who came in here....didn`t provide any real info...then found out no-one was prepared to stick their neck out...i bet you think this is novel dont you...

trust me your not the first...and i`m sure you wont be the last either

next...
 
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