The use of plastic wall plugs for the 18th....

[Marvo]

I can see these making a comeback, they should be rated to 327.5 °C

 

[ipf]

As usual we will comply as we know and abide by the regulations. However other trades won’t so Dave the data bloke or Steve the Sky engineer won’t give a **** and still just chuck it them in...

...and then there are the diy Dick's and cowboy **** pretenders in our own trade.

 

[Rpa07]

I can see these making a comeback, they should be rated to 327.5 °C

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That’s a lead lug on that which would melt over the kettle put on to make the tea! Nice fixing though, used to use them for BT cables.

 

[EalingBadger]

Just out of curiosity, donother trades such as ceiling fittiers, air con installers have to comply too as they both install things that are liable to fall down should the fixing fail in a fire?

Surely the point is that falling wiring does not merely impede one's progress in the same way as other falling stuff (such as suspended ceilings) but also has the interesting additional potential ('scuse pun) to administer a seriously painful and possibly life threatening jolt at the same time?

 

[snowhead]

Do any of you old geezers out there remember ALEX plugs in the 70's. They were an aluminium rawlplug an always gave you a solid fixing - much better than the plastic ones. Perhaps they are the solution to this problem.

Yes I remember those, make that 60's and 70's.
When I started it was with the then GPO, (Electrical) they wouldn't allow anything else, certainly not those new fangled plastic things.

I can also remember using the Rawlplug fibre compound that you used to dampen and push into larger / oversized holes then screw into it. Used that at home before I started work and had access to Alex plugs.
I'm sure that must have had asbestos in it.
Just Googled , yes it was white asbestos, lovely I used to chew that to get it wet.

 

[netblindpaul]

Chewing asbestos is quite safe, it only causes damage when finres are inhaled.

 

[snowhead]

Chewing asbestos is quite safe, it only causes damage when finres are inhaled.

You tell the kids that nowadays, they won't have it..

 

[Pete999]

More on ally plugs - they still make them. Seems they are about 4 times the price of plastic. See more here : UCAN | Products - http://www.ucanfast.com/products/details.php?category=Mechanical+Anchors&c=6&subcategory=+Light+Duty+Anchors&sc=181&productid=112

Ally melts don't it?

 

[Pete999]

More on ally plugs - they still make them. Seems they are about 4 times the price of plastic. See more here : UCAN | Products - http://www.ucanfast.com/products/details.php?category=Mechanical+Anchors&c=6&subcategory=+Light+Duty+Anchors&sc=181&productid=112

Ally melts don't it?

 

[telectrix]

at about 660 C.