The use of plastic wall plugs for the 18th....

[Wilko]

Sorry, but you forgot the new arc effen device, so that's £750

 

[Spoon]

So plastic plugs no, but plastic trunking, conduit, fast fit boxes, etc etc etc are all ok, someone is having a good old ****ing laugh at us all, and all we do is bend over further and let the scam providers shaft us,maybe we should go back to the 4 inch nail bent over cables like in the good old days

Plastic trunking will only melt in a fire. Same as other plastic products. Cables within the plastic trunking, if fitted to the ceiling for example, will fall out of the trunking. The copper in the wire will not melt at the temps they are talking about, where firefighters will be in the building, so these copper wires may cause "entanglement". Therefore you have to secure the wires and prevent them from dropping.

 

[the pict]

So as lo g as the fixing stays up everything else can dangle and sag, fooking crap and I can't believe some of you are buying into this "We are the borg prepare to be assimilated" for trays, baskets, metal trunk use metal expanding anchors simple

 

[DPG]

So as lo g as the fixing stays up everything else can dangle and sag, fooking crap and I can't believe some of you are buying into this "We are the borg prepare to be assimilated" for trays, baskets, metal trunk use metal expanding anchors simple

Over reacting slightly ?

 

[123]

I'm mainly domestic and small commercial works now. I don't see how this affects me at all?

If I do a shed, garage etc, the cables fall down the wall, no chance they will be in anyones way. Showers and smokies going from ground floor to attic it's a bit of MT2 stuck to the wall, without it the cable isn't in a danger to anyone it'll just hang there.

 

[Oldschool]

Do any of you old geezers out there remember ALEX plugs in the 70's. They were an aluminium rawlplug an always gave you a solid fixing - much better than the plastic ones. Perhaps they are the solution to this problem.

 

[Ian1981]

I'm mainly domestic and small commercial works now. I don't see how this affects me at all?

If I do a shed, garage etc, the cables fall down the wall, no chance they will be in anyones way. Showers and smokies going from ground floor to attic it's a bit of MT2 stuck to the wall, without it the cable isn't in a danger to anyone it'll just hang there.

The new regulation doesn’t make any exceptions be it a single cable incased in trunking on a wall or for bundles of cables fixed high level to a ceiling,it simply states ALL wiring in the installation shall be secured against premature collapse so it will affect all installations.

 

[123]

The new regulation doesn’t make any exceptions be it a single cable incased in trunking on a wall or for bundles of cables fixed high level to a ceiling,it simply states ALL wiring in the installation shall be secured against premature collapse so it will affect all installations in all locations of installation.

That's not what I meant. I should have made it clearer.
If I use surface trunking in a house it's either along a skirting, in the hot press, or from floor to ceiling to go between floors. The commercial stuff in my area isn't much different, and anything bigger I doubt I'd be using PVC conduit or trunking.

 

[Oldschool]

More on ally plugs - they still make them. Seems they are about 4 times the price of plastic. See more here : UCAN | Products - http://www.ucanfast.com/products/details.php?category=Mechanical+Anchors&c=6&subcategory=+Light+Duty+Anchors&sc=181&productid=112

 

[Strima]

As usual we will comply as we know and abide by the regulations. However other trades won’t so Dave the data bloke or Steve the Sky engineer won’t give a ---- and still just chuck it them in...