Sleeving, grommets and other lazy faults

[grimysparks80]

Im getting really sick of going to jobs that have been done in the last few years where the electrician hasnt used sleeving, grommets ect. Im finding it very rare for electricians to bother with this stuff.

Ive spent the last couple of months going round putting right and checking jobs done by other sparks and most of them have needed sleeving done on them.

A lot of these jobs were done perfectly well apart from this one thing.

I know its only minor but when im doing anything with these jobs i have to disconnect all the cables and sleeve them up. It really irritates me. Ive spoken to plenty of sparks who I would consider to be better than me generally in terms of knowledge or skill, buit they refuse to use sleeving as they dont see the point.

Does anyone else find this is widespread?

How do you guys feel about sleeving cables?

 

[Thomas123]

hmm i guess you have a point.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

or over me head! Great idea, I need a beer!

Saved up enough then...i can hear them jars rattlin from here......pricy now ale innit..lol..........

 

[topquark]

hmm i guess you have a point.

Nope, I have a pint

 

[Thomas123]

Nope, I have a pint

mmmmm beer

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Nope, I have a pint

fullers "london pride" Mmm:sifone:

 

[topquark]

fullers "london pride" Mmm:sifone:

Would be nice, or HSB (as they've taken over that from Gales). I've got a dodgy cold lager, just don't let Tel know!

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Went to the local the other nite.. went for the carling and it was as flat as a fart...that`l teach me i thought..funny though as its usually allrite

 

[vernam616]

Carling = poor mans lager, the choice of the chav

 

[GLENNSPARK]

1664 is the way forward, carlings for gaylords :26:

Its the mornin after that counts though believe me non of my cables n conduits are straight after i`v been on the pop..........

 

[Marvo]

...use of grommets has been with me since my first days in the industry (1972). Sometimes it's been a bush and locknut/ring where appropriate.

Grommets are a pet hate of mine. Too often they don't stay in place and too often they're too lazy to disconnect the wiring so they cut the grommet to allow it to be fitted as an after-thought. I use glands or bush and locknut every time.

Where I am sleeving of earths isn't a requirement but I sometimes do sleeve if the panel layout benefits from it. I always identify wiring using printed labels rather than coloured sleeves

 

[Grommit]

Commercial/industrial installations certainly need more in depth identification of conductors/labelling of switchgear/end user accessories than domestic installations.

Off topic, but it certainly seems on topic in this thread, I have yet to meet a fellow sparkie who is a member of a non drinking society (with the exception of alcoholics anonymous).

Add to AA, those of a religious sect, those who have a medical condition and those who are just plain p'ss poor broke.

My drinking days end when a medical condition (death) gets me.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Commercial/industrial installations certainly need more in depth identification of conductors/labelling of switchgear/end user accessories than domestic installations.

Off topic, but it certainly seems on topic in this thread, I have yet to meet a fellow sparkie who is a member of a non drinking society (with the exception of alcoholics anonymous).

Add to AA, those of a religious sect, those who have a medical condition and those who are just plain p'ss poor broke.

My drinking days end when a medical condition (death) gets me.

on a serious note...i`v cut a lot of it out...runnin round town n stuff as it would have got the better of me and i wouldn`t be sparkying now....thats fore sure......

 

[topquark]

on a serious note...i`v cut a lot of it out...runnin round town n stuff as it would have got the better of me and i wouldn`t be sparkying now....thats fore sure......

Yep, like everything else, needs a balance (or lack of after too many ).

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Yep, like everything else, needs a balance (or lack of after too many ).

well if it aint ballanced it wont "stay in" you know that..lol...........

 

[Grommit]

There is indeed a thin line between professional social drinker and seriously ill alcoholic.


Or is it Line(s), L1 L2 L3 ?


:54::54::54:

 

[GLENNSPARK]

There is indeed a thin line between professional social drinker and seriously ill alcoholic.


Or is it Line(s), L1 L2 L3 ?


:54::54::54:

depends which ones got the best continuity lol..........:26:

 

[grimysparks80]

I dont know. I go away for one night and when I get back I find you lot have turned a serious and potentialy boring discussion into a chat about the merits of beer.

Ye gods I love this forum.lol.:biggrin:

 

[topquark]

I must apologise for that, I have a habit of trying to inject a bit of light heartedness into a thread once it's served it's purpose ... hope it didn't distract tooooo much

 

[grimysparks80]

No mate. Id much rather read a topic about beer. When I saw 5 pages of replies i thought "Crikey. That ones taken off".

Didnt think people would have so much to say on the subject...lol.

 

[Knobhead]

Off topic, but it certainly seems on topic in this thread, I have yet to meet a fellow sparkie who is a member of a non drinking society (with the exception of alcoholics anonymous).

Add to AA, those of a religious sect, those who have a medical condition and those who are just plain p'ss poor broke.

My drinking days end when a medical condition (death) gets me.

My mate dragged me to an AA meeting, before the coffee break we both legged it off to the pub!

 

[Mr Mike]

The AA gave me a telephone number in order to help with my addiction.
When I rang the number it was the local offie !!!!!!!

 

[grimysparks80]

Did you know that if your unemployed and can prove youre an alcaholic you can get a booze allowance on top of your benefits.

I asked my gaffer to let me go when I heard that

 

[kenny james]

i was recently at a job concerning rcd tripping on sockets, i located the faulty socket, it didnt have a grommet on the metal backbox and the line cable had a nip in it touching the backbox. i can understand what you mean about sparks not using grommets.

 

[telectrix]

i've had to cut down. spar have taken off 4 for £6 and now it's 3 for £5.50. bloody robbers. it's 5 miles to the supermarket.

 

[Des 56]

i've had to cut down. spar have taken off 4 for £6 and now it's 3 for £5.50. bloody robbers. it's 5 miles to the supermarket.

Go self employed tel,brew your own

Probably a competent person scheme for doing so by now though:8:

 

[GLENNSPARK]

I bet he`s got the mini bar for it in the corner of the room n all.....mg_smile:

 

[Des 56]

I bet he`s got the mini bar for it in the corner of the room n all.....mg_smile:

I dont know about tel having a bar,but my bar in my lounge under the stairs is my pride and joy :sifone:

All experienced connoisseurs of good ale should have one

 

[telectrix]

have brewed my own in the past. mostly good, but lately had a couple of bad brews. must be losing my touch.

 

[tawraste]

can't praise the beer festivals in my area enough - last one was a couple of weeks ago, my favourite was 1/2 7.5% barley wine (awesome lovely stuff not at all like gold label) and 1/2 8% scrumpy lol.
no lie, 20 bucks and the wife and I were in the curry house.

if it wasn't for life luxuries such as beer I would not be able to establish a good enough reason for a lifetime spent in work.:biggrin: