Electric Consumer Unit allowed in Boiler cupboard?

[onions1066]

To go from overhead to underground you are looking at big bucks. Longer meter tails would be a better solution. But if it overhead you will looking at a TT supply so you need an earth rod. I would not advice driving this in yourself .

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To go from overhead to underground you are looking at big bucks. Longer meter tails would be a better solution. But if it overhead you will looking at a TT supply so you need an earth rod. I would not advice driving this in yourself .

 

[preston]

the first common rule would be common sense wich is not in the regs, the regs would be for those whe like to play without safety wise man once said...

 

[Engineer54]

To go from overhead to underground you are looking at big bucks. Longer meter tails would be a better solution. But if it overhead you will looking at a TT supply so you need an earth rod. I would not advice driving this in yourself .

I bet you'll find more overhead supplies that have been PME'd than those that haven't!! So it's not always the case that a TT system is always required....

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[onions1066]

I bet you won't. Go round and count them and let me know

 

[Engineer54]

I bet you won't. Go round and count them and let me know

I'll leave that to you!! lol!!

You must be in a well out of the way area, that's all i can say. Where i was in the UK, a good 90% of residential overhead supplies had been PME'd, ...and most of them converted in the 50/60/70's!!

 

[Deleted member 9648]

I'll leave that to you!! lol!!

You must be in a well out of the way area, that's all i can say. Where i was in the UK, a good 90% of residential overhead supplies had been PME'd, ...and most of them converted in the 50/60/70's!!

Very few of the overheads in my area are not PME.

 

[vjsmarwick]

I am guessing everyone here is talking about rules for electric from gas which is what we know but may be worth checking does the gas guys have rules do they have any thoughts I am on an island and we don't have gas here so not a problem we ever have but it did make me think about it ? Anyone know ? If your doing it do it right and make sure you check everyone's rules prevention better than cure

 

[Engineer54]

Going back to the original thread, Personally the boiler cupboard wouldn't ever be my first, second, or even third choice of locating a CU in a domestic installation!!

 

[onions1066]

Why not?

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Why not?

Ambient temperature?

 

[onions1066]

Seriously wire puller are you pulling my leg, how much heat is produced from a sealed boiler a lot less than a radiator. So in that case we will have to put the con unit outside.

 

[Stroppy]

If its a room-sealed gas boiler that shouldn't be a problem.

 

[Engineer54]

I'm not saying that installing a CU in the same cupboard as a boiler is a complete No No, but it certainly wouldn't ever be my choice of locating a CU. If anyone here thinks a boiler in a closed cupboard isn't going to increase the ambient temperature within that space, needs to think again. And ambient temperature can/will have an effect on the CU's protective devices...

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Seriously wire puller are you pulling my leg, how much heat is produced from a sealed boiler a lot less than a radiator. So in that case we will have to put the con unit outside.

Dont pull legs mate....clues in the title:redface:


Anyway......older boilers produce a lot morre heat than modern ones,ambient temperature may be an issue to be taken into account in some circumstances.

 

[HandySparks]

If anyone here thinks a boiler in a closed cupboard isn't going to increase the ambient temperature within that space, needs to think again. And ambient temperature can/will have an effect on the CU's protective devices...

Agreed, but a modern condensing boiler produces a remarkably small amount of 'waste' heat from the casing.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

and if the ambient tempreture rises above 30*....as its likely to do next to a heat sourse in a confined space....

 

[chris murphy]

Hello,

I have just moved into a new house, which will require a full rewire.

I am looking at relocating the main electrical consumer unit into the boiler room which houses the gas combi boiler.

Can anyone advise any regulations that would resrict this?


Thanks,

Callum

"Hello Callum",

PLEASE don`t think that I am being funny with this - but for other less Professional readers:

I would definitely advise that You do NOT fit the Consumer Unit in a position where a leak from the Boiler or any associated Controls - Pump / Zone Valves etc. could drip onto it.

Obviously you would definitely NOT fit the CU Under the Boiler / Pump & Zone Valves for that reason.

You would be surprised at where I have seen Electrical Consumer Units in relation to Boilers / Heating Equipment.

Regards,

Chris - Heating Engineer / Gas Engineer.

 

[Des 56]

You would be surprised at where I have seen Electrical Consumer Units in relation to Boilers / Heating Equipment.


A switch can be sited behind a door,it's never the door hung incorrectly
So with that in mind Chris,Can I remind you,in these cases,the heating always came after the electrics :sifone:

 

[chris murphy]

You would be surprised at where I have seen Electrical Consumer Units in relation to Boilers / Heating Equipment.


A switch can be sited behind a door,it's never the door hung incorrectly
So with that in mind Chris,Can I remind you,in these cases,the heating always came after the electrics :sifone:

"Hello Des 56",


MOST of the examples that came to My mind were where the Consumer Units had definitely been installed AFTER the Boiler / Pump / Zone Valves - on the majority of those I could tell that was the case by just looking at the Heating Pipework in relation to the Electrical Wiring / Trunking etc.

I am definitely Professional enough to be able to have made that kind of Judgement / Assessment of the situation.

I have often worked on Refurbishment Works where the NEW Electrical Work is carried out AFTER / During Me installing the Heating and Plumbing to a Property - Electricians who knew Me [and some who did not] liked to come in AFTER I had taken up loads of Floorboards throughout the property.

Although obviously they would NOT be running cables under the same Boards as My Pipework they could use My Boards for accessing across Rooms and adjacent Boards for some cable runs.

SO IT IS NOT ALWAYS THE CASE THAT THE `NEW` ELECTRICAL WORK / CONSUMER UNIT COMES FIRST !


I would have thought that My previous Posts on this Forum would have shown that I have the greatest respect for the Electrical Profession / Electrical Professionals - So My comment that You quoted was NOT a `Dig` at Electricians.

The examples of Consumer Units that I remember were in totally inappropriate positions in relation to Heating Boilers and equipment and I would have been VERY surprised if they had been installed by Professional Electricians.


"Happy New Year Des",


Regards,


Chris

 

[Des 56]

Chris please,not for one moment was there meant to be anything serious about the post,it was indeed a failed attempt at humour by me that's definite

Your previous posts and the info you give has been invaluable to many and long may it continue
You have my sincerest apologise for any offence created

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