Warning Watch Your Speed

[robbalaar86]

Yeah my company made me aware of this all lgv are restricted to 60 mph on the dual carriage ways. Also we are restricted to 50 on normal national speed limit roads.

Our vans have trackers and we get pulled in for breaking the speed limit. Most van drivers aren't aware of this.

Good post.

 

[telectrix]

as above. vans are limited to 60 on a dual cariageway as a lot of us already know, but a lesser known one is the limit of 50 on a single cariageway road where the limit for cars is 60.

 

[Tuttle]

Thanks, I didn't know that.

What about people carriers?

I think that my Hyundai iLoad is based on their people carrier, or is their people carrier based on the iLoad I don't know, but I guess I wouldn't get far with that argument as it is quite big.

 

[wackyracer]

My VW transporter has a second row of seats and is classed as a diesel car on the log book.It's over 2 ton so is it a car or a van.

 

[kingeri]

I'd just stick to the lower speed limits to be on the safe side. Bloody ludicrous laws we have.

 

[telectrix]

almost as daft as part pee.

 

[UNG]

I'd just stick to the lower speed limits to be on the safe side. Bloody ludicrous laws we have.

It's probably some EEC directive that we have been forced to bring into law

 

[Tuttle]

I'd just stick to the lower speed limits to be on the safe side. Bloody ludicrous laws we have.

Yeah, in future, I'll remember to slow down to 50 instead of 60 when I see the fuzz :auto:

 

[telectrix]

by the time you see them it's probably too late to take the phone out of your ear. put the beer down, fasten seat belt and then drop your speed to the legal limit.

 

[Tuttle]

There was a jeweler on That's Life (a long time ago now) who kept getting tickets whilst unloading his car stopped on double yellows outside his shop. So they disguised his car as a van, using a Top Gear style modification, and it solved the problem! The traffic warden totally ignored it (until they suggested that he might like to take a closer look and he discovered the ford fiesta hiding underneath).

Difficult to use that solution in this case though I guess, unless you've got some of that timelord technology!

 

[grantr37]

The problem arises from the term "car derived van" a lot of the small vans these days are not derived from a car. I know of someone who got a speeding ticket in the same van and circumstances as the OP and the reason given by the police was although Peugeot do produce a car in the same shape because the van was produced and first registered before the car variant was it is not classed as a car derived van

I would class any van, even a clio minivan, a corsa minivan or an astra minivan as just a van, as the plod can just turn around and say that if they say it is not car derived then it is not car derived.... it's like arguing if a jaffa cake is a biscuit with the vat man, it won't end in your favour....if its a van it's a Ban is all that will happen.... "3 year ban and a £5,000 fine....and in my closing statement..."....... hey its a van!! (" silence contempt of court....6 months custod....(hey no fair)....12 months ...")

 

[Barry Cade]

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...fety/DG_178867 have a look at this site,I drive a VW caddy and it would appear as its not a saloon car derived van I have been breaking the law until now

 

[Barry Cade]

ciderdaz read my comment,check the link out I drive a caddy and thought it was a small van too,apparently its a transit HA!

 

[Robert Turnbull]

Dam I thought vans could do 80........

 

[Barry Cade]

only on autobahns robert

 

[grantr37]

you will see less and less minivans and car derived vans going about, they are very very(very) popular in Australia and they are (and have been for many years) getting bought up secondhand from Garages, private individuals and auctions and shipped out to Australia, a lot of the new Astravans are going over there just now as well as Dacias(europe made) that are made for there(and not offered for sale here) and there are Mitsubishi and Toyota car derived minivans being sold(made for) there....
does anybody remember Ford Sierra Minivans and pickups? or ford Escort minivans (and compact pickups) or the smaller Toyota pickups there were back in the 1980's (that would be classed as "classic collectable " Autos now) a large amount of these went to Australia, now that there is apparently no perceived market for these kind of vehicles in the UK and Europe they are no longer manufactured for/intended for sale here and all that is sold in the UK is cut down(miniaturised also with smaller engines) versions of American vehicles (referred to stateside as SUV's- Sports Utility Vehicles)

I was speaking to somebody about 6 weeks ago who goes to Australia every year and buys Ford Fiesta cars (also used to be very popular in OZ) and ships them back before stripping them to bare metal shells and fitting new engines, interior, suspension, new everything, they get converted into off road racing cars...they were run into the ground in Australia then left sitting in fields and in the dessert which means that the bodywork got preserved by the hot dry weather...



I noticed that there is a company here shipping VW Jetta and VW Passat minivans from Australia to the UK that were made in Germany specifically for the Australian market, they get them secondhand and restore them, unfortunately they are converted for show and not much use for work....they end up pimped out with ultra low profile Alloys, bright metallic paint (yellow, Orange etc) and giant fat exhausts....I seen one last summer going around, was lowered to within about 2 inches of the road, music blaring out of a big stereo, blue lights underneath, chrome all over the place etc...

 

[SYKRAPS]

I am very glad that my post has been of use to some of you guys that were of the same thoughts as myself 'before' I was caught out by my lack of knowledge.

To be fair to the course instructor he did ask us to spread the word.....................

 

[DNS1]

What absolute bull****... I never knew vans were limited in such a way...

What's really stupid is that a Transit Connect is limited to 60mph on a dual carriageway, but a Ford Tourneo, normal Transit but with seats in the back, is classed as a car so can do 70mph!

 

[robbalaar86]

It's not the 60 on dual that's the pain. When you're trying to get back for the footie and you can only do 50 on single carriage way that's the bloody killer.

 

[SYKRAPS]

What absolute bull****... I never knew vans were limited in such a way...

What's really stupid is that a Transit Connect is limited to 60mph on a dual carriageway, but a Ford Tourneo, normal Transit but with seats in the back, is classed as a car so can do 70mph!

Neither did I and it cost me a few quid not to get points on my license, hopefully the post has done you a favour.........