Pyro + me

[ipf]

Do you remember how to make a T Bar stripper?

Boydy

What's the booze like in a T Bar ?

 

[elliot123]

And I gave my micc tools away!! lol

Do you remember how to make a T Bar stripper?

Boydy

Noticed abit of threaded rod bent over in boot of someone's car I work with and he just laughed and said it's something I'll never use then explained lol

 

[7029 dave]

Do you remember how to make a T Bar stripper?

Boydy

Boydy, nope, if its a micc tool/ stripper, never got on with any of them always used me side cutters, just as fast had loads of practice. lol

 

[Guest55]

christ yeah , the genuine pyrotenax tools were expensive , even second hand gear is very rare to aquire also.

 

[ipf]

christ yeah , the genuine pyrotenax tools were expensive , even second hand gear is very rare to aquire also.

Imagine the price of 'em now...glad I don't need any extra blades for my joistripper!!

 

[Plonker 3]

Tried using some "proper" MIMS tools last year, after 5 minutes put them down and used junior hacksaw and side cutters.

 

[7029 dave]

Tried using some "proper" MIMS tools last year, after 5 minutes put them down and used junior hacksaw and side cutters.

Please tell me the junior hacksaw was for cutting 6" off before terminating it, and not for anything else.

 

[guest119]

christ yeah , the genuine pyrotenax tools were expensive , even second hand gear is very rare to aquire also.

MICC - Tooling, Rotary Stripper, Pot Wrench Tool - Remora Electrical Limited

 

[7029 dave]

Never mind the strippers, ringing tool is a MUST.

 

[7029 dave]

On the subject of micc, what is the biggest and number of cores anybody has made off? . My is 3H16 and 12L 1.5

 

[High Tower]

1H70 and 4H35

Most of what I do is 3L1.5 and 3H6

 

[Guest55]

MICC - Tooling, Rotary Stripper, Pot Wrench Tool - Remora Electrical Limited

£70 for the pot crimper , ouch.
lol

 

[jaypp]

Soon MICC will be a specialist's department, I can picture it now, a specialist company advertising for sparks over 50 capable of repairing/installing MI must have own MI tools and a pyro straightener will be an advantage, must not be allergic to powder lol

i wonder how many actually would need or use all the 'pyro tools'.
pyro straightener also known as apprentice/labourer
fp n pyro both have advantages/disadvantages. today, cost counts and one is expensive/labour intensive.
fp, i think, is more 'fragile' than micc due to flimsy sheath and air between conductors and their rubbery insulation.
u gotta admit, pyro does look better too!

 

[Guest111]

Some years ago I had my pyro tools stolen,along with other stuff anyway a neighbour of mine got talking to me,he'd recently moved into the house and wanted power to a shed in his garden,asked if I would do it and would I do it in pyro,cost was not a problem as he worked at BICC and could get it for nothing.I explained about the tooling being pinched and he said "oh" and off he went,he returned a couple of days later with a 100mtr coil of 2l 2.5 and a full set of tools.This was many years ago and I still have the tools in my shed.My last apprentice asked about pyro at college and was told they don't teach it these days as it's a black art,shame really.

 

[Fin170]

As much as i love the look and principle of the stuff it's just too expensive for many uses now and with increasingly better battery back up available on everything that number is dwindling

Cant see it ever being used to the extent again that it is here, heavy duty for PA system and clock circuits? Bit extensive :lol:

Maybe fibre optic pyro is the way to go

 

[i=p/u]

Interesting reading all your posts, plenty of replies....

i did do a gland/pot at tech but haven't came across it till now and it seems to be in many houses in Edinburgh .. As for the board change we were told to leave it for now , but we have break into ring tomorrow to separate rooms , which we will be using choc boxes and t+e .lol..

 

[Engineer54]

Interesting reading all your posts, plenty of replies....

i did do a gland/pot at tech but haven't came across it till now and it seems to be in many houses in Edinburgh .. As for the board change we were told to leave it for now , but we have break into ring tomorrow to separate rooms , which we will be using choc boxes and t+e .lol..

That sounds about right, ....the philistines rule!! lol!!

 

[Guest55]

yeah , we might as well have called it the "T&E + me" thread lol.

 

[tazz]

Like any product it has its plus points.....unlike FP, it does not compel or allow gases to be sucked through it like a straw.....still class as enhanced fire cable, outlasting the 30 minute 200 deg reg, by hours not minutes......can handle more current than conductor twice its size......has always been class as LSF.....after 40 years of installation, still passes a full 500v insulation test.
Would say pyro still has a place in installations.

 

[UNG]

Always remember going to IFSEC when FP appeared on the market with Pirelli making big claims about how it met all the same standards and went through the same tests as MI so I asked them why their show rig only had the cable in a flame with a live circuit running on it when the BICC stand had a similar set up with MI cable with a hammer beating it then quenching it with water and then started the cycle again then it came out that one piece of pyro had to be used for all the tests while a different piece of FP was used for each test. A few years later at IFSEC BICC had a section of the pyro installation that was taken out of the channel tunnel after the fire on their stand if they had used FP I don't think there would have been anything left for Pirelli to display

Pyro might be expensive but FP is a compromise where safety or life may be at risk