Clarification on Part P

[harrison2987]

I am a fully qualified time served electrician but keep getting asked by customers if I am 'Part P'. Am I right in saying Part P is simply for builders/wannabe electricians, who wish to install electrics legitimately by taking a short course? I have never been clear on the purpose of Part P so if anyone can enlighten me I would be grateful

 

[Nivag316]

He put me on the council register

 

[trev]

The council register of what mate?

 

[Robert Turnbull]

I think it means he can submit a test sheet directly to them to comply with part p

Do you have to pay?

 

[trev]

We know that's not how the CPS works though Robert. He may think he's scam registered but he's not. I reckon they've accepted his certs as a one off

 

[harrison2987]

We should start our own scheme, no fees only high standards opf work and good custmer feedback!!!

 

[Engineer54]

Part P is a waste of time i contacted our local building officer took my qualifactions down to his office and he put me on the register foc.
And it only applies to paid for work that is why saturday at B&Q everyone is queueing to buy db's and cable and sunday evening i earn £50 call out and £30 per hour putting it right.

I'd doubt very much if more than a handful of DIYers would attempt a CU change!! Most of those shed CU's are being purchased by electricians, or by homeowners supplying materials for the job, to keep the costs down!!

 

[Mainman]

Which register did he put you on?
Part P does not only cover paid work mate, if you read the approved document there's a schedule in there as to what it covers and what it doesn't.

As I said...sooo much confusion


Regulating the industry is the only way forward. Gas .... don't touch unless your registered. Electrics....well you can put a socket in the bedroom but if you put it in a kitchen you must notify... (In Wales from April) but not in England unless it's a new circuit. O boy, If it wasn't bad before...

 

[trev]

As I said...sooo much confusion
Regulating the industry is the only way forward. Gas .... don't touch unless your registered. Electrics....well you can put a socket in the bedroom but if you put it in a kitchen you must notify... (In Wales from April) but not in England unless it's a new circuit. O boy, If it wasn't bad before...

To a point Mainman I agree but to quote a band called Placebo, It's way too broke to fix. As I've said on other debates on the regulation subject I can walk into plumb center and as long as I've got the cash I can walk out with everything I'd need to install a gas heating system with no questions asked. Halfords will sell me parts that I can then fit on your car without querying my competency to do so, I could go on and on with similar examples
Plus can you see the sheds allowing the government to tell them what they can and cannot sell? They're owned by big businesses that the government are scared of. Even further, what would happen if you suddenly got some sort of protection for our trade? The plumbers would want it, then the joiners, then the plasterers etc etc and before you know it every DIY shop in the country would be closed. The turkeys ain't going to vote for christmas mate

 

[Mainman]

It's all been a very shameful expensive slap in the face to the trade and it is waved a very fond good riddance

So you don't think the trade should be regulated? So we will continue to see under unit lights in ktchens in 0.5mm tapped straight off cooker circuits? This is being done now, but in many cases by unregulated so called electricians. If a registered enterprise is doing it they are putting the trade to shame, it's not the fault of the scheme itself. Yes, Part P is a shambles but the whole industry needs a complete shake up and total regulation.

 

[trev]

So you don't think the trade should be regulated? So we will continue to see under unit lights in ktchens in 0.5mm tapped straight off cooker circuits? This is being done now, but in many cases by unregulated so called electricians.

Ok mate, how is the regulation going to work and how is it going to be policed?

 

[Mainman]

It's way too broke to fix. ....... They're owned by big businesses that the government are scared of.

Yes Trev, you are much quicker at typing than me......Many of these companies put too much into the Government coffers.

 

[trev]

Not bad for one, sometimes two fingers on each hand mate eh

 

[Mainman]

No idea Trev, they can't regulate guns so we've got no chance. Perhaps ask the DVLA to do it, they can sniff out an untaxed vehicle 200 miles away

 

[trev]

No idea Trev, they can't regulate guns so we've got no chance. Perhaps ask the DVLA to do it, they can sniff out an untaxed vehicle 200 miles away

Good point

 

[72-van]

I'd doubt very much if more than a handful of DIYers would attempt a CU change!! Most of those shed CU's are being purchased by electricians, or by homeowners supplying materials for the job, to keep the costs down!!

Its not so many years ago that wickes supplied an easy to follow fact sheet ..steps by step instructions for a cu change

 

[Engineer54]

Its not so many years ago that wickes supplied an easy to follow fact sheet ..steps by step instructions for a cu change

Well that would/should put off the vast majority of DIYers right there!! lol!!

 

[Mainman]

Didn't know Wickes did it but I've seen the B&Q ones. Also seen their notice boards, "If you are not sure, ask our in-house experts". Their sales staff are consultants now, wonder if they've got indemity insurance?