Extending ring circuit

[Octopus]

Must have been a glitch somewhere then Mate, when I worked for them the stock control was very good.

It’s not stock control, it’s whats on the shelf in the local stores ...... not in the central stores

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Another option would be to pull a leg out of the existing socket and crimp to that under the floor.

 

[LabourForApprenticeship]

Ok, I must have my thick head on today.
Why, if you can get to the back box of the socket not just extend from the socket itself?

First time doing this...spurred of before but im a heavy user. I could use heaters which are power hungry. Also i run alot of computer equipment for work purposes 24/7. i think it would be better suited to extend ring given that it would take same amount of work.

 

[SparkyChick]

I think I'll go with crimp, finally unpack my brand new crimper

Plus I'm a cheapskate.

If they are the standard red/blue/yellow crimps, they are not designed for use on solid conductors and do not provide any guarantee of a good, long lasting connection.

For solid cores you should be using uninsulated indent crimps and then the necessary good quality heatshrink sleeving to insulate them.

For extending rings in back boxes I find the Ideal in-line splices are fantastic...

https://www.NoLinkingToThis/p/ideal-spliceline-in-line-wire-connectors-pack-of-10/42201

 

[Pete999]

It’s not stock control, it’s whats on the shelf in the local stores ...... not in the central stores

Stock control in the Screwfix outlets are controlled, updated on a daily basis, from personal experience, I can vouch for their product maintainability.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Last time I checked, there were many crimp manufacturers that state their crimps are suitable for solid conductors.

 

[LabourForApprenticeship]

If they are the standard red/blue/yellow crimps, they are not designed for use on solid conductors and do not provide any guarantee of a good, long lasting connection.

For solid cores you should be using uninsulated indent crimps and then the necessary good quality heatshrink sleeving to insulate them.

For extending rings in back boxes I find the Ideal in-line splices are fantastic...

https://www.NoLinkingToThis/p/ideal-spliceline-in-line-wire-connectors-pack-of-10/42201

https://www.NoLinkingToThis/p/ideal-in-sure-2-port-push-in-wire-connectors-pack-of-100/50427

Are these any good?
Or these...

https://www.NoLinkingToThis/p/ideal-in-sure-3-port-push-in-wire-connectors-pack-of-100/56118

 

[SparkyChick]

Last time I checked, there were many crimp manufacturers that state their crimps are suitable for solid conductors.

I wouldn't use them due to the nature of the crimp construction. As you know, typically they are a split tube which is simply pressed into an oval shape when crimped. Usually it's quite a thin wall on the tube and I'm just not convinced they stand up well to the thermal cycling they may experience.

I've certainly tried a variety of crimps on solid cable in the past and not had much joy (various crimp manufacturers and various crimp tools), and I've pulled far too many apart with very little effort that have been installed on sites I've worked on, so I just steer clear and use things like the SpliceLine and Wagos.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Both of those will work, though they would need to be within an enclosure.

 

[SparkyChick]

https://www.NoLinkingToThis/p/ideal-in-sure-2-port-push-in-wire-connectors-pack-of-100/50427

Are these any good?
Or these...

https://www.NoLinkingToThis/p/ideal-in-sure-3-port-push-in-wire-connectors-pack-of-100/56118

They are Ideals Wago and will do the job. I find the SpliceLines are easier to secrete in the backbox, particularly if it's a bit tight.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

I wouldn't use them due to the nature of the crimp construction. As you know, typically they are a split tube which is simply pressed into an oval shape when crimped. Usually it's quite a thin wall on the tube and I'm just not convinced they stand up well to the thermal cycling they may experience.

I've certainly tried a variety of crimps on solid cable in the past and not had much joy (various crimp manufacturers and various crimp tools), and I've pulled far too many apart with very little effort that have been installed on sites I've worked on, so I just steer clear and use things like the SpliceLine and Wagos.

The red, blue and yellow crimps are usually barrel type, with a thin wall solid tube inside a thicker wall split tube.

 

[Octopus]

Stock control in the Screwfix outlets are controlled, updated on a daily basis, from personal experience, I can vouch for their product maintainability.

I needed some piranha's last week - NONE of the local stores had stock and ALL had them on "over night" delivery........

 

[LabourForApprenticeship]

I know at work, we use standard insulated crimps if the cables need extending... I go by what the boss requests.

This jobs for my own home, so rather do the job the best way possible.

 

[SparkyChick]

The red, blue and yellow crimps are usually barrel type, with a thin wall solid tube inside a thicker wall split tube.

I've not seen any like that. The one's I've seen have always been the split tube is the main inner.

Would you mind pointing me in the direction of that style please?

 

[Deleted member 26818]

I've not seen any like that. The one's I've seen have always been the split tube is the main inner.

Would you mind pointing me in the direction of that style please?

Company called AMP.
Although saying that it appears some of my crimps do not have the extra tube.
Crimp pak and Engex, don’t.
I think the extra tube ones are called ‘faston’.

 

[SparkyChick]

Company called AMP.
Although saying that it appears some of my crimps do not have the extra tube.
Crimp pak and Engex, don’t.
I think the extra tube ones are called ‘faston’.

Thanks for that... will take a look

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Thanks for that... will take a look

They can be a bugger with fine staranded wires, as the strands try to go between the tubes.

 

[LabourForApprenticeship]

For future reference, what would you guys use for stranded cables?

Also... Are connector blocks no good for this application?

 

[Spoon]

For future reference, what would you guys use for stranded cables?

These are good for stranded cables.

 

['mr2'gd4u]

For future reference, what would you guys use for stranded cables?

Also... Are connector blocks no good for this application?

Lever wago connectors personally for stranded