Part P

[DurhamSparky]

Just to sum it up


Part P is a building Regulation that is statutory and which must be followed when carrying out electrical work in domestic property.

Part P is NOT a qualification and any body going around saying they are Part P qualified and have a certificate are talking Bull....!! You DO NOT need to do a 2 week VRQ course
Electrical Course | Part P Electricial Course like this one with a training scheme to register as a Competent Person.

YOU NEED TO BE COMPETENT....!! this can be achieved by undertaking formal Electrical Quals at a college or by a training provider...!!

You do however need to know about the building Regs and Part P....!! you can download Approved Document P from the planning portal website.

The following schemes are the most popular with domestic sparks. Elecsa, Niceic and Napit. Upon registration with them you will be required to conduct a formal technical site assessment that will involve you changing or modifying the electrical set up drastically (Rewire/ Cu Change)

If you pass the assessment you are then freely allowed to carry out work in areas designated by building control that fall under the Part P umbrella http://www.partp.co.uk/downloads/public/CLGbuildingworkleaflet.pdf and any work that you carry out can be notified and signed off through them (the schemes) at a small cost (£2-4) and they will inform LABC for you.

If you decide not to register with a Part P scheme. be preared that notification of work to LABC can cost hundreds of pounds and drastically increase your price. They will also expect you to still carry out the tests and paperwork before they arrive to SIGN IT OFF


Recommended courses to do are:

A formal Technical Certificate that is achieved at Level 3 on the NQF (National Qualification Framework) i.e

C&G 2330 or BTEC Advanced/National Diploma.... This gives you the Underpinning Knowledge to build on. (achieved via college or distance learning 18months - 24months is time scale)

You will also Need 17th Edition Wiring Regulations C&G 2382 (if you dont have this you wont get any where in the trade.)

NVQ 3 2356 (its a Craft Certificate that although not needed is very desirable and normally achieved when doing an Apprenticeship but now freely available to "Bolt on" to your current Qualifications via distant learning.

C&G 2391 the ultimate qualification in the electrical world..! Inspection and Testing only to be achieved with considerable site and technical knowledge, closed book exam with a 30-40% pass rate.

C&G 2392 (lesser qualification of the 2391 and aimed at new sparks with little knowledge of inspection and testing, normally used as a starter course to grasp the fundamentals of what's required)

Signing off your work..!!!

you DO NOT need 2391 to sign of your work but you will be expected to have knowledge of inspection and testing to an achievable standard required to carry out and fill in the test results.
You also do not Need 2391 to carry out PIR's but should any thing happen and you go to court the 2391 certificate is your lifeline to prove competence in the field.



hope this helps...

comments and alterations welcome

 

[Engineer54]

Hey man.... Don't knock the right wing/Tory elite they will be the saviours of this once glorious nation. It's you safety obsessed lefties/unionists with your criminal labour government who have F'd the country beyond all recognition....

It was f'D up long before Labour got in!! You must have completely or conveniently forgot about the 17 years of Maggie and Major!! The greed and criminality culture, can be directly linked to that era of time!!

And No, i'm not a Labour or any other UK party supporter....

 

[DurhamSparky]

Party time in the N.East when thatcher dies!!!

 

[trev]

A few other areas too Durham

 

[UNG]

Party time in the N.East when thatcher dies!!!

I think I'll have a bigger party when blair and brown turn their toes up

 

[Steve2381]

I've lost the will to live.... 11 pages later....

Did the 2382-12 17th edition in January, been sparking on and off since I left school.
Due to appalling lack of work in the NE, thought I would re-start the sparking. No wonder guys don't bother getting Part-P etc, its just not made easy is it.
Why not simply have a system... show your credentials, do a test... you are Part-P.
I don't want to join some third party fleecing association, I had enough of the Niceic the first time around.
Yet in the current climate, you can't afford to bang £100 on your price to cover the local building inspector to pop out.
Even after 11 pages, I am still no wiser. If I start up tomorrow, with my spanky 17th edition, I still need to register with say... Napit or someone.
Then, I am technically trading without Part-P, until they come out and inspect some of my work. However, I can't get the work... cause I am not Part-P.
And if I do get going.... am I then obliged to spank yet more money on the 2391?
Madness

 

[old dog]

Good luck to you mate , Yes we all have to start somewhere , When I left school I was one of the lucky one's .Nothing wrong with a late start . I am back at college now doing a computer maintenace course , two nights a week for a year . It wont make me a computer engineer. Sorry for the rant it just gets me going when someone tells me they are a Part P Electrician , Rant number 2 over

Hi Old Dog

I didn't do that course I did an NCS 18 month course. I got made redundant aged 49 and wanted to retrain as an electrician. There was no government support for someone my age doing this and no one providing the training locally so I did a home study course with 4 away weeks. I realise this does not make me as capable as someone who has done a 3 year apprenticeship but I've got to start somewhere and I am determined that I will not do anything that is beyond my capabilities. Electricity is just too dangerous to take risks with,

 

[joelea]

No problem, good luck with the computers

 

[rugbyspark]

Good luck with your Computer Maint course BUT depending on age you may find it hard to get work, I would check out Computer Forensics as a possibility if inclined.
After 20+yrs in IT (Hardware Support) I had to go back to sparking, that was also hard as no one wants an oldy even offering free work just to check my knowledge !.

 

[Tidy Max]

Cheers to Steve for the original post, the search function brought this thread up and it had most of the information i was after!

Just a quick one though haha,

what is the main difference between the 1 day, 3 day and 5 day part p courses?

Awaits 2-4days as an answer... brilliant.

Does the course have any form of exam? (i read that you do NOT get a cert and it is NOT a qual)

After just completing a 3day 17th course and immediately regretting the additional outlay as i should of clearly just gone for the one day i don't want to make the same mistake again!

 

[joelea]

Passed my first NICEIC inspection last week. Now to find some work.