SWA to Switch?

[Colin33]

Any suggestions as to how to terminate swa into a switch/fuse neatly? I've run it through a metal box and out to the switch with the switch cover covering the point where the sheath is split but wondering if there's a neater way to do things?

 

[NickD]

Just on the top surface??

It's just that it's easier to compromise the top surface because that has to be to IP4X or equivalent (can't admit 1mm dia object) other surfaces only IP2X (10mm object, British Standard Finger, oooh Matron).

 

[CockneyReject]

Is your wholesaler a little bloke from Peckham with a battered old briefcase and a yellow 3 wheeler??

I really can't see how a wholesaler doesn't have 32mm stuffing glands on the shelf it's hardly a specialist item even the smaller ones in the more remote parts of the county I live in keep them on the shelf and no2 arbours and 32mm hole saws so I'd be very surprised if your local doesn't hold them in stock

 

[Darkwood]

TBH xt600 Given that you have been given various solutions that are neat and comply yet come out with various excuses from a wholesaler not stocking the basics to suddenly having no room to fit anything ... what is it you want from us then your a member of nearly 3 yrs and assuming from previous threads that your a practicing Electrician to the public although you give o profile details then you should be expected to first assess the job - quote it if required and get the correct gear .... if your lacking available room you may need to create more room or re-site the isolator (all this should have been assessed already).

Tails through grommets as you describe wont be acceptable and your mention you rarely look at the regs book?... if this is the case how do you know if your work complies, ive been doing this job for 25yrs and advising on regulations on here for several yrs and I have to refer to it at least every few weeks, you mentioned running into a metal clad board through 2 different holes to fit your tails in and i genuinely believe you didn't realise this was a big no-no....

Weigh the job up correctly at the quoting stage
Have the correct loose stock
Get a wholesaler who stocks basic electrical accessories
Use your regs book more often.... having the 17th update cert' only shows you know about new amendments but it comes across you are less clear about other regulations.

Drop the excuses, always give a professional standard of work and keep a good stock of spares with you, having various grommets as what seems your only stock item is poor level of preparation you'll spend more time running around wholesalers and either cutting your profit margin or unfairly charging customers for time because you dont carry the basics ... 20 - 32mm stuffing glands should be part of your stock IMHO!


Sorry to get slightly off hand but you were starting to sound like a young apprentice always got excuses why they can't do what has been suggested ....take as constructive advice and not a rant at you :book:

 

[gazj82]

Even if I couldn't find a 32mm stuffing gland on my van, I bet I could find a 32mm bush and lock ring. Then use a couple of clips to keep the tails steady if needed.

 

[Guest55]

1. the metclad sw-fuse sintra posted will almost certainly have 20 / 25 /32mm knockouts in the casing , you shouldnt have to drill anything.

2. you dont need 25mm tails anyway for a 63A supply..........

 

[Octopus]

Me thinks the OP only wants to use bits he's got, or ripped off from another job, and doesn't want to get his wallet out!!

 

[telectrix]

Me thinks the OP only wants to use bits he's got, or ripped off from another job, and doesn't want to get his wallet out!!

maybe he's a yorkshire man.

 

[Darkwood]

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maybe he's a yorkshire man.

Tight but not that tight Mr Tel .. Ill have you know I folked out £5 quid on our lasses xmas gift ...Ohh and still had change for a pint ontway home!

 

[Deleted member 72666]

Tight but not that tight Mr Tel .. Ill have you know I folked out £5 quid on our lasses xmas gift ...Ohh and still had change for a pint ontway home!

That's ma boy... spoil em I say!

 

[Colin33]

TBH xt600 Given that you have been given various solutions that are neat and comply yet come out with various excuses from a wholesaler not stocking the basics to suddenly having no room to fit anything ... what is it you want from us then your a member of nearly 3 yrs and assuming from previous threads that your a practicing Electrician to the public although you give o profile details then you should be expected to first assess the job - quote it if required and get the correct gear .... if your lacking available room you may need to create more room or re-site the isolator (all this should have been assessed already).
Yes, been a member for 3 years of this and other forums, but rarely visit due to the condescending and patronising way some members treat others for simply asking questions.

Tails through grommets as you describe wont be acceptable
I would argue this point Mr Darkwood, surely if the IP rating is maintained what is the problem?? and your mention you rarely look at the regs book?... if this is the case how do you know if your work complies, ive been doing this job for 25yrs and advising on regulations on here for several yrs and I have to refer to it at least every few weeks, Which just goes to prove what an ambiguous publication this is. When the pen pushers who write this stuff and charge us £80 as often as they possibly can to read it actually write something that is universally understood by electricians I may just consult it a little more often! you mentioned running into a metal clad board through 2 different holes to fit your tails in and i genuinely believe you didn't realise this was a big no-no....Although I completed my training nearly 15 years ago this was actually one of the things i DO remember! I was just playing Devil's advocate...it appealed to my humour, but in hindsight maybe it was inappropriate.

Weigh the job up correctly at the quoting stage Fortunately I didn't have to quote for this particular job. It's a two year project. Things get changed or added almost every day so although it's a very interesting build (passivhaus) it can be frustrating at times.
Have the correct loose stock
Get a wholesaler who stocks basic electrical accessories I shall pass on this message to Denmans! As I guessed, they didn't actually stock a 32mm gland!!
Use your regs book more often.... having the 17th update cert' only shows you know about new amendments but it comes across you are less clear about other regulations.

Drop the excuses, always give a professional standard of work and keep a good stock of spares with you, having various grommets as what seems your only stock item is poor level of preparation you'll spend more time running around wholesalers and either cutting your profit margin or unfairly charging customers for time because you dont carry the basics ... 20 - 32mm stuffing glands should be part of your stock IMHO! Funny, but I probably have a lot more 'stock' than you do, but it won't be all electrical. Last week I was fitting a wet underfloor heating system, the week before I was constructing radon traps and laying concrete floors. This weekend I will be fitting an EPDM roof. Next month I have a kitchen to fit and some wood flooring to lay. And I guess you're now thinking of the old saying 'jack of all trades, master of none'? Well, I've been self employed for 26 years and never once had to advertise my services, my works vehicle isn't even sign written, and although ALL my work is through recommendation I have almost never found myself short of work.
I think I must be doing SOMETHING right, and the diversity of my job keeps me very happy indeed!


Sorry to get slightly off hand but you were starting to sound like a young apprentice always got excuses why they can't do what has been suggested ....take as constructive advice and not a rant at you :book:

Unlike some people, who think they know absolutely everything, I do consider myself an 'apprentice' most of the time. I can happily accept that there's always something new to learn. Particularly with electrics because it's not a full time occupation for me, and sometimes I come accross unfamiliar situations and seek to ask advice. Fortunately, there are some professional forum members who offer this helpful advice. Unfortunately, there are others like Mr. Reject who's comments are as useful as a fart in a wetsuit. What a pity they don't have anything more constructive to do in the evenings...

 

[MDJ]

Wheres the picture you promised?

 

[micknew]

This should be in the DIY section obviously, another chancer.

 

[MDJ]

This should be in the DIY section obviously, another chancer.

That would be insulting to DIYers lol

 

[micknew]

That would be insulting to DIYers lol

Yes MDJ, my sincere apologies to genuine DIYer's.

 

[Colin33]

That would be insulting to DIYers lol

OOh, you are a bunch of bitches on here aren't you!!
Is your life soo sad you have to sit on your own every evening waiting for your next victim to come online? Were you bullied as a kid? I've just been reading through the posts of the last poor sole who came on the forum looking for advice but was lambasted by a bunch of self righteous a-holes and had to leave the forum.
I suppose most of the REAL electricians have got far better things to do with their time....

 

[MDJ]

Only pulling your leg, wheres the picture you said you would put up?

 

[Sintra]

OOh, you are a bunch of bitches on here aren't you!!
Is your life soo sad you have to sit on your own every evening waiting for your next victim to come online? Were you bullied as a kid? I've just been reading through the posts of the last poor sole who came on the forum looking for advice but was lambasted by a bunch of self righteous a-holes and had to leave the forum.
I suppose most of the REAL electricians have got far better things to with their time....

To be fair you where offered some good advice to your original question. Anything with a smiley face or with lol after are generally considered as light hearted comments (banter).

 

[shanky887614]

OOh, you are a bunch of bitches on here aren't you!!
Is your life soo sad you have to sit on your own every evening waiting for your next victim to come online? Were you bullied as a kid? I've just been reading through the posts of the last poor sole who came on the forum looking for advice but was lambasted by a bunch of self righteous a-holes and had to leave the forum.
I suppose most of the REAL electricians have got far better things to do with their time....

If only he knew.

Electricans are on best behaviour infront of customer's, as soon as there out of sight or there onsite then they let loose.

A lot more banter than on here

 

[Colin33]

Only pulling your leg, wheres the picture you said you would put up?

I didn't take any pictures today. I couldn't complete that part of the job because Denmans didnt have the gland I wanted and I got involved in another part of the job instead. There's no gas to this property as it's on the edge of a cliffe, so all the heating is electric underfloor. I've wired it all through a heatmiser UH1 and net-monitor. This is so that it can be controlled remotely via phone or tablet etc. An interesting set-up but IT is not my strong point so setting up the router/port address etc to enable the remote control of the system is proving tricky. Anyone have any experience with this type of thing?

 

[shanky887614]

I didn't take any pictures today. I couldn't complete that part of the job because Denmans didnt have the gland I wanted and I got involved in another part of the job instead. There's no gas to this property as it's on the edge of a cliffe, so all the heating is electric underfloor. I've wired it all through a heatmiser UH1 and net-monitor. This is so that it can be controlled remotely via phone or tablet etc. An interesting set-up but IT is not my strong point so setting up the router/port address etc to enable the remote control of the system is proving tricky. Anyone have any experience with this type of thing?

Every router is different. What brand and model is it?

im guessing the manufacturers instructions state to open up a port for example port 8080.

I would have thought you just need to plug the rj45 in or wireless and not need to change anything