Please review my electrician's work

[laike]

Hi guys, could you please take a moment to review the electrician's work on my flat and leave a comment as to its quality.

Switches and sockets were placed in various strange positions without my agreement. He has moved them where required but they're still not 100% and are not centered and measured properly on the walls.

We had agreed that all wires would be chased into the brickwork inside plastic conduit. I am disappointed to see so much raw cable buried within the plaster without conduit.

Thanks for your input,

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[Outspoken]

of course they can - all depends on the wording of the freehold agreement doesn't it, so it's contract law and nothing to do with part p.

The clue as to their legal rights and responsibility is FREEHOLDER but I do believe this is not the correct term because the OP does not own the property and is thus a LEASEHOLDER and as such the ownership of the property has not changed hands and you have simply leased the property for a stated period of time, such as 99 years. The law on this quite tight and the Council, as the Freeholder, has certain legal rights, but they have no right to dictate to leaseholders who can and cannot work in their home as long as the work is not structural and the works are completed by a competent person (Part P compliant or Gas Safe registered), however they have no legal right to state that you cannot have a person undertake the work if that work will be assessed as to competency, in fact common sense says this should be more acceptable because the work will be independently inspected and thus should be 100% compliant and even safer than other installations...

By the way, I have family who are leaseholders in Hackney and Waltham Forest so I know what the council's legally can and cannot do, the problem is most leaseholders do not and so the council bully them into their understanding of the regulations..

 

[Guest55]

the best thing to do for the OP is to hire the electrician he feels he trusts the most regardless of whether that electrician is in a scheme or not , and then pay the council to carry out their own independant inspection & notification at the end of the job.

the freedom to comply in such a way is all laid out in part p law , the council cannot stipulate anything different.
if they do contest it with a few facts from your citizens advice bureau , you'll find that most local authorities lack the will or the money to fight someone who knows their rights.

 

[laike]

the fired electrician showed up at the flat and is being intimidating and says he wants his cables back. He's parked outside waiting for me. I've called the cops, just waiting for them to arrive...

 

[Clive P]

Hi,

Stick with it, you know you are right. I believe a lot of people on here are right behind you. Stay calm and don't be intimidated.

Regards.

 

[laike]

what good would it do to rip all the cables out the walls - they're all cut to size anyway. He just wants to damage the flat, doesn't he?

 

[Clive P]

Hi,

Tell him, sorry you cannot come in , this is the advice from my solicitor.

Regards.

 

[laike]

called the cops. You guys should have seen him when he caught the new electrician there with me this morning - it was like he caught someone sleeping with his wife. He gave us a stare down from hell.

 

[sedgy34]

Let him have his cables back it may have to be redone anyway

 

[laike]

yeah but 1) it needs to be inspected by the NIC and 2) I'm not duking letting him in the flat to rip them out the walls! And 3) I'm not touching them either.

 

[Geordie Spark]

called the cops. You guys should have seen him when he caught the new electrician there with me this morning - it was like he caught someone sleeping with his wife. He gave us a stare down from hell.

Did the cops turn up and if so, what did they do?

 

[laike]

no, still waiting. I guess they don't think 'an electrician being intimidating' is a priority issue. I was bricking it though!

the fired builder turned up and collected the oval conduit and a roll of bonding wire and is trying to pacify things. Hopefully the spark will leave as he's parked out front!

 

[MDJ]

Did the cops turn up and if so, what did they do?

Probably beat up a pensioner outside the house I suspect LOL

 

[Geordie Spark]

no, still waiting. I guess they don't think 'an electrician being intimidating' is a priority issue. I was bricking it though!

the fired builder turned up and collected the oval conduit and a roll of bonding wire and is trying to pacify things. Hopefully the spark will leave as he's parked out front!

You should have told plod there was a little girl playing hopscotch outside your door and damaging the pavement with her chalk.

They would have been there - Tasers drawn - faster than greased lightning !!

 

[telectrix]

just hope his road tax/mot/insurance has run out on his van. then they'll slam him in irons.

 

[Silly Sausage]

Come on Laike, get a picture of this 'Electrician' and his van posted up!

 

[laike]

I got video of him attacking me. Will post it on YouTube later.

 

[telectrix]

make sure you post a link to the video.

 

[DPG]

And give the police a copy of course. Daz

 

[demolution4o]

installation methods of cables
Safe zones for electric cables - DIYWiki
safe zones

and then RCDs
Cables in a wall or partition

A cable concealed in a wall or partition must
a) be at least 50mm from the surface [note 1]
b) have earthed armouring or an earthed metal sheath (eg SWA, a BS 8436 cable or MICC cable)
c) be enclosed in earthed steel conduit or trunking
d) be provided with mechanical protection (3mm steel is deemed sufficient to meet this requirement)
OR
e) be installed in a safe zone .
The 17th edition also requires cables in the safe zone to have 30mA RCD protection if not installed as per a, b, c or d.
Note 1 - If the wall or partition is made from or partially made from metal then the cable will require RCD protection or be installed as b), c) or d) above





and at the end
All the "competent" forum sparks.
Read the books. Find the regulation. Then u can make a comment in the forum
Or maybe you will find u a job and leave the forum

 

[telectrix]

and, pray, what does that post have any relevance to the thread, apart from stating the obvious?

 

[Tidy Max]

Jesus christ he attacked you! Hope you are okay mate, just read the whole thread. What a polava!

The police probably wont bother turning up but you should always ring them so the event gets logged.

Did he attack you after you posted he was sat outside waiting for you in his van?

 

[Geordie Spark]

Jesus christ he attacked you! Hope you are okay mate, just read the whole thread. What a polava!

The police probably wont bother turning up but you should always ring them so the event gets logged.

Did he attack you after you posted he was sat outside waiting for you in his van?

If he attacked you AFTER you requested the police to attend, maybe you have grounds for complaint against them.

The compo may pay for your re-wire .........

 

[markythesparky]

I got video of him attacking me. Will post it on YouTube later.

Don't forget to give us the link for this. should be good for a Monday evening.

 

[telectrix]

If he attacked you AFTER you requested the police to attend, maybe you have grounds for complaint against them.

The compo may pay for your re-wire .........

obviously, this "electrician" is a southerner. the OP is still able to post.

 

[Engineer54]

obviously, this "electrician" is a southerner. the OP is still able to post.

Not for 6 hours he hasn't!! lol!!

 

[markythesparky]

obviously, this "electrician" is a southerner. the OP is still able to post.[/QUOTE} OOH! That's not nice.

 

[MDJ]

obviously, this "electrician" is a southerner. the OP is still able to post.

:cuss:
lol

 

[Geordie Spark]

The OP has gone very quiet ........ must be a long queue at his local A&E department .............

 

[Darkwood]

I bet after hearing what the OP has just told us that you all are double checking your posts you wrote and watching the news tonight ...... tight bottom time :shocked: can see it now the police interview..... well i went on this forum and!!!!

 

[Spudnik]

As the OP has all the info he needs, this thread is now closed.

If he wishes for it to be opened, he can send me or one of the mods a PM.