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[Guest55]

I agree with both comments arrange circuits to minimise inconvenience in the event of a fault yes. Bit that in no way precludes combined lighting and power circuits as common in the rest of the world

i dont think this forum is ready yet to adopt an radical wiring methods used abroad lol.

 

[Guest55]

Glenn you should make that your new signature. Just for a giggle of course mate

i think this image is more apt for glenn ..........


;-)

 

[Geordie Spark]

i got some of these things at last years elex show in harrogate...i didn`t like them then...but as i have a propensity to just grab stuff (if its free)..i ended up with a fistfull of them..
their still in a jar at home....and thats where they are staying n all..
horrible, nasty things they are..
made by `ideal industrys` i think....
i know they use these a lot in the states....[/LEFT]

Typical Tyke !!! ........... I love it !! :clap::rofl:

 

[Engineer54]

Mmm, an interesting reply, i'll bet your one of these loud mouths that never shuts up about your self importance and how good you think you are when your at work, in the wholesalers, in the pub, and maybe when you're on the other job. Lol!!!

In your comment about another sparky following me with regards to a fault and having to run up and down stairs?there are still homes in the UK that still have one ring serving every outlet in the home on more than one floor. A 30/32 amp ring main, probably the most dangerous circuit that exist in the world, but yet you laugh at the Yank system?

The niccy never had a problem with my choice of selection for circuit design, in fact they were impressed that I had managed to implement a wiring system without departing from bs 7671, and at the same time improve reliabilty without putting a whole floor in darkness, in the event of a nuisance trip from a split board. And also remain competetive, the main reason why I do domestic. Most of all, they didn't think I was bloody stupid as you put it.

And yes, I would include lights and power on the same circuit if the terminals were large enough in the light switches to take 2 or more 2.5.mm conductors, and the contacts were sufficiently rated along with the lighting accessories. Without using a fuse spur. I can't see how that would constitute a departure.

You can say what you like, from someone such as yourself, it's like water off a ducks back!! lol!!

Are you really for real??? Your talking about bygone years here now, when a single RFC was installed to cover all the sockets in a house!! The RFC the most dangerous circuit that exists in the world, lol!! Now i know your a bloody idiot!! Yes i do laugh at many of the Yank wiring systems, because now you REALLY are talking outright dangerous!! And yes i have worked with NFPA 70 (NEC) along with the green, red, buff etc, engineering books!! Perhaps you can explain all the outstanding benefits of a multi branch circuit derived from a 3 phase board, to those UK electricians that have never come across such a wiring method (and probably never will)!!

I bet the NICEIC guy's were impressed too, they also like to make up their own rules!! lol!! Where are you improving reliability for god's sake, your putting both up and downstairs lights on the same circuit, same with your sockets??

As for your last paragraph, this just tells me you should be heading straight back to the States, as fast as your little legs can carry you!! lol!!

 

[GLENNSPARK]

You can say what you like, from someone such as yourself, it's like water off a ducks back!! lol!!

Are you really for real??? Your talking about bygone years here now, when a single RFC was installed to cover all the sockets in a house!! The RFC the most dangerous circuit that exists in the world, lol!! Now i know your a bloody idiot!! Yes i do laugh at many of the Yank wiring systems, because now you REALLY are talking outright dangerous!! And yes i have worked with NFPA 70 (NEC) along with the green, red, buff etc, engineering books!! Perhaps you can explain all the outstanding benefits of a multi branch circuit derived from a 3 phase board, to those UK electricians that have never come across such a wiring method (and probably never will)!!

I bet the NICEIC guy's were impressed too, they also like to make up their own rules!! lol!! Where are you improving reliability for god's sake, your putting both up and downstairs lights on the same circuit, same with your sockets??

As for your last paragraph, this just tells me you should be heading straight back to the States, as fast as your little legs can carry you!! lol!!

LOL....
i think he`s gone off in a huff eng (or embarrasment?)....lol...

LOL....

 

[GLENNSPARK]

thats an interesting looking piece of kit glenn , what make / type is it ?
i get all geeky over testgear lol.

some crap from chinaland...lol...
doesn`t do IR or i think low resistance (dead)....just a live testing thing....
might be ok for pat testers to `prove` the supply polarity & RCD times etc...but thats about it...

 

[Guest55]

i think this image is more apt for glenn ..........

sorry glenn , it was too good a pic to pass over lol.

 

[Engineer54]

some crap from chinaland...lol...
doesn`t do IR or i think low resistance (dead)....just a live testing thing....
might be ok for pat testers to `prove` the supply polarity & RCD times etc...but thats about it...

Nope, it's an American home made bit of kit. As i said, it is actually not a bad bit of test gear, can't remember all the details, it's been a long time since using one, but tests Yank GFCI's and will measure resistance/impedance during live testing. But Yes it is mainly for live testing!!