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about time.some pile of :001_9898: got 6months for nicking water, and the guys who killed that 68 yr man want hanging.
i also think who ever was out rioting when that old guy got killed. they should all get charged with accessory to murder. other then that ant looking forward to the PL season with arsenal there a chance they might be playing Millwall next yr:drunk:
 
A friend of mine just sent this, i don't like them "pass it on mesg " BUT

Natalie ♥ ♥ Message to all the rioters ~ you want to be big men and fight to the death?? well get your sorry little arses on the next plane to Afghanistan and stand alongside real men , they're called soldiers and they are fighting a war unlike you bunch of pathetic wastes of space !!!!! copied from a friend please repost if you agree ♥ ♥
 
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A friend of mine just sent this, i don't like them "pass it on mesg " BUT

Natalie ♥ ♥ Message to all the rioters ~ you want to be big men and fight to the death?? well get your sorry little arses on the next plane to Afghanistan and stand alongside real men , they're called soldiers and they are fighting a war unlike you bunch of pathetic wastes of space !!!!! copied from a friend please repost if you agree ♥ ♥


They don't wanna fight though mate, just steal.
 
Military service/Conscription is probably the best idea I've heard yet by miles!!!
All this talk of stopping their benefits or booting them out their houses is just going to criminalise them even more.
The world's mental.

Good idea Brucie
 
It's no longer on the news here, have they finished breaking windows and stealing X-Boxes now?
 
Glad to hear it. I had to laugh the other day, we got an advisory e-mail from the SA Home Affairs Dept warning that it wasn't safe to go to the UK with the recent civil unrest, travelers with trips planned should postpone until further notice. So it's officially safer to be in Johannesburg than London at the moment. :)
 
After reading that lot I am at a loss almost what to say I work in London, Tottenham is a mess, Romford borne near there, the whole area is a quagmire, observations ? Easy to blame 'Afro Caribbean' kids not so easy to blame them when you look at the more Northern riots that were predominately White Brits, want answers I don't have them...Except to say some of the poorest people in this country,that come from ***** child hoods...like me and I suspect like a lot of fellas on here, we grafted, we got up early, we did paper rounds at stupid 0'Clock, we had self esteem,respect for law and order,and our parents, faultless they may not have been were there for us...When I look in the mirror each morning, I have my dignity and self respect I have raised two kids that have morals, and respect....and no one even some jerk off in a tracky can take that away from us
 
we had self esteem,respect for law and order,and our parents, faultless they may not have been were there for us...

A very significant observation there. I was like that back in the 70s, also the fear of being caught, I was a bit naughty now and again. I used to get beaten up by my teachers occasionally, usually for a bit of of back chat, but you'd just take it. Both sides knew where we stood, so basically I kept myself in order. These days the poor ****ing teachers can't lay a finger on them without being dragged through the courts.......result yobbo jnr sussies he can do what ever the hell he likes knowing no one can touch him. I blame the insidious Americianisation/litigation culture for that. And so it goes on with general crime, they usually get off with nominal sentences, result, they don't give a monkeys. These youths seem to have absolutly no respect for anyone or anything, a sorry state of affairs indeed, and if they increase in number from what they were 10 or 20 years ago the country is going to sink even further down the plug hole of inequality and anarchy.

Struth, ramble over. Off down Asda for some beer and my last ever pack of smokes.
 
Anyone watch bbc3 last night?they had a program putting the yoof point of view across.dear me.it's all about education initt.the same drongos who cant be arsed actually applying themselves to get educated in the first place.every one of them thinks it's their right to a job, higher education ,apprenticeship etc etc.missing the point that all this has to be achieved with a bit of application n not just handed to you.the youth of today is the man of tomorrow.I despair at that thought.
 
Anyone watch bbc3 last night?they had a program putting the yoof point of view across.dear me.it's all about education initt.the same drongos who cant be arsed actually applying themselves to get educated in the first place.every one of them thinks it's their right to a job, higher education ,apprenticeship etc etc.missing the point that all this has to be achieved with a bit of application n not just handed to you.the youth of today is the man of tomorrow.I despair at that thought.


Hammer... Nail... Head... This is exactly what the problem is. Today's youngsters want it all... Now! Because of the tripe that the liberal education establishment promises, together with a mix of rampant materialism, these idiots do not see the value of hard work. So it is not surprising that they do not share any sense of common values with the rest of society, or strive for a common purpose. I know that by tradition teenagers have always been rebellious and anti-authority but some of today's kids are truely a law unto themselves. And it seems to me that there are now more bad ones than good ones - in certain areas anyway.
 
Aye, it's this mentality of 'the world owes ME a living etc' that slightly winds me up.
No it doesn't, if you want goodies get out there and work for them.
I have a dole bludging 'friend' (used in the losest possible terms) who thinks he doesn't have to work, has his holidays courtesy of the state...I'll stop there on that one!
 
As a post script to my post a few days ago..............

I was rambling about corporal punishment, my story...
I came from a 'good, fairly strict' home, Dad a Probation Officer, Mother a Social Worker AND an occasional Magistrate!
They'd let me do my own stuff but with a smidge of discipline!
Anyway, 1971-78 I went to the local public(or whatever they were called) school, I'm supposedly quite intelligent (hard to believe with some of crap I post on here) so was given a grant by the council to go there.
As I said before, I was out of order on quite a regular basis, nothing nasty just mischievous really, got caned countless times, 1st time about 13 I think, and suspended 3 times.
But, without all that, I would have almost certainly gone completely off the rails and left school at 16 with shag all qualifications and probably been a complete loser now. As it happens I got 9 O levels, 3 As and went to Uni where I had a fantastic time and met the wife of 30 years now.

That is benefit of allowing physical punishment (for me anyway and I'm not bitter or twisted in anyway whatsoever from having it)

Suppose the point I'm trying to make is, if someone like me (sounding like I'm something special etc, I'm not, just your average Joe really) could have ended up with nothing if I hadn't been punished what hopeless cat in hells chance do the youths of today stand with parents who don't give a monkeys what their kids are up to, except if a teacher lays a finger on them then 'GREAT we can sue the school for child abuse'



and now breath calmly

Next topic...This Nanny State we live in.

I'm off for 2 weeks, see y'all :)
 

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