2 gang socket wiring.

[Deleted member 26818]

Another option is to take one leg to the back box, the other leg to the socket front, and a fly lead linking the two.
This may be a preferred option when space is tight, such as when larger conductors are used, or when there are spurs from the socket being installed.

 

[Geoffsd]

You may want to look at your own English and spelling!! lol!!

Posters whose first language is not English making a few mistakes is completely different than English speakers writing gibberish which is all too common on here.

 

[Geoffsd]

:49:That was embarrassing.

 

[driverman]

Another option is to take one leg to the back box, the other leg to the socket front, and a fly lead linking the two.
This may be a preferred option when space is tight, such as when larger conductors are used, or when there are spurs from the socket being installed.

years ago used I used copy an electrician I was with whereby when 2nd fixing a socket I would strip both cables. One leg would go to the earth term in metal box (continuous) but not cut then back out to socket to connect up with 2nd leg earth. I dropped that idea after a while and took both legs to socket, then flt lead back to box. In fact doing installation now, where i have already earthed the back boxes @ first fix stage using some insulated g/y conduit cable.

 

[DPG]

Well he must have been referring to posts #1 to #11, and to be honest they don't seem particularly bad to me as regards sentence structure. Daz

 

[lippy]

i terminate both incoming cpc into earth terminal in metal back box and run 2.5 green/yellow conduit wire into the socket. keeps it tidy in there.

I wouldn't do that, The individual CPCs should go into each of the TWO earth terminals in the socket outlet, then a fly lead to the back box from one of them, I believe this is in case a CPC becomes disconnected or breaks at the socket outlet a continuity test will detect this, whereas, by twisting the two CPCs from the cables together and putting them in one earth terminal, it would not show up if the CPCs had become detached from the socket terminal

 

[driverman]

i terminate both incoming cpc into earth terminal in metal back box and run 2.5 green/yellow conduit wire into the socket. keeps it tidy in there.

i would suggest you do it the other way round.

 

[driverman]

I wouldn't do that, The individual CPCs should go into each of the TWO earth terminals in the socket outlet, then a fly lead to the back box from one of them, I believe this is in case a CPC becomes disconnected or breaks at the socket outlet a continuity test will detect this, whereas, by twisting the two CPCs from the cables together and putting them in one earth terminal, it would not show up if the CPCs had become detached from the socket terminal

Agree 100% what you say.....but many sockets have only 1 earth terminal. Are not the 2 earth terminal sockets for use with IT equipment / circuits. Nice drawing in OSG

 

[shanky887614]

Agree 100% what you say.....but many sockets have only 1 earth terminal. Are not the 2 earth terminal sockets for use with IT equipment / circuits. Nice drawing in OSG

i havent come across any double sockets that only have 1 only single sockets.

we use schneider,crabtree,click,legrand etc

 

[Guest77]

Very cheap double sockets have one earth terminal, very cheap ones, 90 pence from CEF lol, most double sockets which are over a quid have 2 pmsl.

 

[Silly Sausage]

Right, that's 2 gang sockets dealt with...
What about 1 gang sockets?

 

[Guest77]

Pointless, I never use them lol

 

[Micklane]

Really?? I can't remember a project that i've ever worked on from the 80's to the present where fly leads from the faceplate to the back boxes haven't been called for, and not just for socket outlets either!!

Which country do you work in, that is so uninformed? The design of U.K. 13A socket outlets is such that there is adequate contact, by means of contact to the metal bridgework behind the screws, and the fixing box metal screws. As there are usually 2 points of connection for cpc's inside a socket outlet, there is no requirement for earthing fly leads to the body of the box. This dates users of this practice, and probably went out at the same time as twisting cpc connections, and using a common sleeve.

Regards

 

[shanky887614]

Which country do you work in, that is so uninformed? The design of U.K. 13A socket outlets is such that there is adequate contact, by means of contact to the metal bridgework behind the screws, and the fixing box metal screws. As there are usually 2 points of connection for cpc's inside a socket outlet, there is no requirement for earthing fly leads to the body of the box. This dates users of this practice, and probably went out at the same time as twisting cpc connections, and using a common sleeve.

Regards

you follow the spec you have been given or it will be charged for another company to correct it

 

[Micklane]

Very cheap double sockets have one earth terminal, very cheap ones, 90 pence from CEF lol, most double sockets which are over a quid have 2 pmsl.

As I remember, high integrity circuits such as those for computers, with leakage currents in excess of 10mA require 2 points of connection for cpc's at socket outlets .......... and also at C.U.'s. Sockets outlets with one point of cpc connection, could not be used on a high integrity circuit. Now then, how would you cater for this requirement at the earth bar of a CU, and maintain the order sequence w.r.t. the Lives?

Regards

 

[Micklane]

If a spec is issued calling for pigtails, a word in the ear of the specifier should be made, to have the anomaly corrected, especially if registration is applicable; if necessary get confirmation from a maker such as MK, the NICEIC or NAPIT. :coolgleamA: You may just get brownie points!

Regards

 

[Micklane]

A word in the ear of the specifier should be made, to have the anomaly corrected, especially if registration is applicable; if necessary get confirmation from a maker such as MK, the NICEIC or NAPIT. :coolgleamA:

Regards

 

[Engineer54]

If a spec is issued calling for pigtails, a word in the ear of the specifier should be made, to have the anomaly corrected, especially if registration is applicable; if necessary get confirmation from a maker such as MK, the NICEIC or NAPIT. :coolgleamA: You may just get brownie points!

Regards

And what anomaly would that be?? It's a good working practice (now that is something that could be said belongs in the past!!). I take it you are far more qualified than Electrical design Engineers yes?? The very last people i'd take any advice from, is NICEIC/NAPIT or any other scam operator or indeed, anyone suggesting their advice to be sort/taken!!

 

[Mazak]

It is going to be off topic, so as I understood there is no detailed requirements to that subject.
Thanks everybody.

 

[driverman]

As I remember, high integrity circuits such as those for computers, with leakage currents in excess of 10mA require 2 points of connection for cpc's at socket outlets .......... and also at C.U.'s. Sockets outlets with one point of cpc connection, could not be used on a high integrity circuit. Now then, how would you cater for this requirement at the earth bar of a CU, and maintain the order sequence w.r.t. the Lives?

Regards

Lol..I have always wondered that, as it puts it OUT of sequence