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Delboy247
Just a quickie I've been selected to be an electrical supervisor for my firm I work for what are my exact roles and should I ask for more money.
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Spazz
Supervisor means taking on responsibility!
Supervisor responsibility means the buck stops at you if something goes wrong, great job as long as the company has a good reputation and good safety rating.
Does the company let you make new rules and correct problems as they arise?
I personally would ask for more money - I wouldn't be happy with being on the same rate as the installers as your directly responsible for them.
Supervisor responsibility means the buck stops at you if something goes wrong, great job as long as the company has a good reputation and good safety rating.
Does the company let you make new rules and correct problems as they arise?
I personally would ask for more money - I wouldn't be happy with being on the same rate as the installers as your directly responsible for them.
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alarm man
just a foreman in old money,id expect a bit more but nothing exciting,at least you get to tell me people to do the crap jobs instead of doing them yourself.which can be worth its weight in gold/or copper if theres plenty of cut off's
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Marvo
hiring, sacking, dealing with skivers, filling out holiday sheets, doing assessments and performance meetings. Management meetings. charts. Pie charts.
ask for more money
Or ask for an assistant
Supervising isn't all it's cracked up to be.
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SPARTYKUS
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Paul.M
Ask for more money mate, trust me you will be working harder from your head than your hands. The buck stops with you in most cases, quality of workmanship, timescales and paperwork all need to be at the highest level not forgetting h&s.
A lot of people on here know a lot more than me about being a QS, take note of everything they say, its a different ball game so to say but you know it all by now, just need to apply it. Good luck and I hope you get a decent pay rise.
A lot of people on here know a lot more than me about being a QS, take note of everything they say, its a different ball game so to say but you know it all by now, just need to apply it. Good luck and I hope you get a decent pay rise.
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alarm man
why would a foreman need an assistant,what ive always found in old money again,the foreman was a top spark,the best on site,they were also a bit mad and tough,watching the arguing and nearly coming to blows with other trade foremans was a laugh when i was an apprentice,doesnt happen enough in these pc days,delegating i think its called now.
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Role as a QS? No idea on that one. Supervisor... Check exactly what's involed in the job. What, if any, extra responsibilities you'd be taking on, and then discuss.
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SPARTYKUS
One with a flat head thats 4 foot high, and a lip all the way round, to rest your tea mug on
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alarm man
used to be,before the fancy titles..mind school caretakers were better than school site supervisors..
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Knobhead
You keep the best on the tools. The tools you make up to foremen, it’s stops them wrecking things! Sorry that’s wrong, tools are useful, foremen aren’t!
To be honest I’ve had some good foremen and some bad. The bad ones leg it at the first sign of a problem, but are the first to start pointing the finger of blame. The good ones will be with you holding the test set, drawings etc. talking through a fault with you.
In time it happens that the boots on the other foot, your stuck in an office wanting to escape back in to the real world. Bloody time sheets, every Monday morning I just wanted to set fire to them. Arranging shift cover used to drive me insane.
To be honest I’ve had some good foremen and some bad. The bad ones leg it at the first sign of a problem, but are the first to start pointing the finger of blame. The good ones will be with you holding the test set, drawings etc. talking through a fault with you.
In time it happens that the boots on the other foot, your stuck in an office wanting to escape back in to the real world. Bloody time sheets, every Monday morning I just wanted to set fire to them. Arranging shift cover used to drive me insane.
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Arnold Layne
Delboy, the first thing you need to do is to get some kind of written statement from the company on what your new responsibilities will be. Having received this you can then decide how much more you are being expected to do and base any request for a pay increase on that. The other thing you need to explore is whether you require additional training to undertake any new roles. Make sure you are clear on where responsibility lies for compliance with technical standards ( NICEIC and the like) before accepting anything. But aside from that Congratulations, I hope it is a real promotion and not just added work for no reward!
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GLENNSPARK
thought it was "the first thing you need to do is to get some decent food".....then the alien thats in us all breaks out..lol.....
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Or ask for an assistant
You mean a chargehand?
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BlueToBits
The 'Qualified Supervisor' in NICEIC terms is the one person in the company who accepts full legal responsibility for all technical aspects relating to the electrical safety and compliance of all the installations that company undertakes. The person at which the buck stops. The person who has to stand up in court if it all goes pear shaped.
Even I would pay such a person a few extra quid for that.
Even I would pay such a person a few extra quid for that.
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Smudge
i got the supervisors job at my work, and to be honest, its totally different from what i was doing before. I spend more time 'looking' at jobs, deciding whats to be done, organizing materials and man power, risk assessments and the likes. It is still a good job, and happy with the way its turning out. The one major downfall is when it comes to actually doing the work, its becoming rarer and rarer that i have my hands on the tools. To busy being called to 'look' at other jobs. This of course draws a lot of slagging from the other boys, skiver and the likes, but hopefully all in good jest. I do still get to work on the tools at least 40% of the week, more if we are busy, but there is the times you want to pull your hair out as you've spent the whole day running about yet feels like you've achieved nothing.
Here in Scotland, i think the rate for supervisor is 10p - £1, per hour, depending on your companies decision.
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the hardest bit i found, is pulling up the guys you worked with for years, for things like lateness, playing with phones, PPE, basically any non conformance to H + S. Its hard, and a neccessary evil, but laying down the law early, is a must. But i'm sure the guys you work with are all sound and will work for you without too much agro ;-) And if things go wrong, its your problem, thats why you have to be harsh.
Anyway, i think it would be a great move career wise, and well worth it. Good Luck.
Here in Scotland, i think the rate for supervisor is 10p - £1, per hour, depending on your companies decision.
NOTE;
the hardest bit i found, is pulling up the guys you worked with for years, for things like lateness, playing with phones, PPE, basically any non conformance to H + S. Its hard, and a neccessary evil, but laying down the law early, is a must. But i'm sure the guys you work with are all sound and will work for you without too much agro ;-) And if things go wrong, its your problem, thats why you have to be harsh.
Anyway, i think it would be a great move career wise, and well worth it. Good Luck.
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