NICEIC Certification Scheme Niceic test

[Lee76]

Hi all, just joined this great forum

im looking to start an electrical (domestic only ) conpany
with my partner.

I have 22 year experience as an electrician in a steel works
but have bsc electrial &electronic engineering
and my 17th edition. I have the ability to
wire houses to the regs.

My my partner has his inspection and testing
and 17th edition

To sign off our own rewires I'm guessing we will need to join the niceic or electsa
Or others.

We we need to show the inspection officer some of our work, minor and major

could we rewire an old house ( not new build )
get the inspector out to see it all ?
So all the minor and major work all in one ?

would I need to inform the council before starting rewire?
even though it's an old house and the owner isn't planning on informing
council of a rewire ?

can I then use this as our test , hopefully be ticked off by niceic
and give the owner a test certificate ?

Cheers all in advance ?

 

[Octopus]

You need to contact the schemes to understand their requirements AND familiarise yourselves with the requirements of Part P applicable to Wales....

 

[courtwba1]

Im in the same boat, i want to start on my own but dont understand how to go about it. If i wanted to join NICEIC i havent done of my own work so how can i be assessed. I have my C+G 2391 C+G part 2 ,17th edition and nvq3 but no part P would i have to go on this course.

 

[Octopus]

Im in the same boat, i want to start on my own but dont understand how to go about it. If i wanted to join NICEIC i havent done of my own work so how can i be assessed. I have my C+G 2391 C+G part 2 ,17th edition and nvq3 but no part P would i have to go on this course.

Why do you need this?

Ring the NICEIC and talk to them....

 

[telectrix]

you should be able to do the job, book the assessment, pay the ransom, then notify through your chosen scam.

 

[Octopus]

Oh, and with 2 of you will need to be VAT registered.......

 

[Essex_]

VAT? How comes?

 

[Octopus]

VAT? How comes?

VAT threshold is £79K based on turnover - for ANY 12 months HMRC choose.

If 2 people don't create £79K in 1 year they need to go shelf stacking in Tesco's.

 

[Essex_]

I thought that is where you were going. Just did not want to put myself out there and look like a plum. Haha.

They could have a slow start I suppose.

 

[andyb]

VAT threshold is £79K based on turnover - for ANY 12 months HMRC choose.

If 2 people don't create £79K in 1 year they need to go shelf stacking in Tesco's.

That's right, although it's currently £81K

 

[Octopus]

That's right, although it's currently £81K

Oops, I stand corrected, not sure 2015/16 has been announced yet...

 

[Leesparkykent]

http://www.niceic.com/Uploads/File5487.pdf

http://www.niceic.com/Uploads/File10248.pdf

http://www.niceic.com/Uploads/File9449.pdf

http://www.niceic.com/Uploads/File9447.pdf

 

[andyb]

Oops, I stand corrected, not sure 2015/16 has been announced yet...

I don't think so either, but makes no difference in this case as you said, 2 electricians will be turning over more than 80 odd grand.
They could stay as sole traders and just share the work, messy though.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Im in the same boat, i want to start on my own but dont understand how to go about it. If i wanted to join NICEIC i havent done of my own work so how can i be assessed. I have my C+G 2391 C+G part 2 ,17th edition and nvq3 but no part P would i have to go on this course.

Part P is a building regs document,not a course/qualification. You can read the document online.

 

[newtothis]

im looking to start an electrical (domestic only ) conpany
with my partner.

Being vat registered in the domestic market.
You'll be 20% more expensive than potential competitors.
I'd try to avoid being an unpaid tax collector as long as you can.
That's just my opinion, not saying it's right for everyone. :biggrin:

 

[uksparks]

VAT threshold is £79K based on turnover - for ANY 12 months HMRC choose.

If 2 people don't create £79K in 1 year they need to go shelf stacking in Tesco's.

How much would you say is a typical amount to earn for a one man band like me? I say, so long as I bring home enough to pay the bills and a bit more I'm happy.

 

[Octopus]

How much would you say is a typical amount to earn for a one man band like me? I say, so long as I bring home enough to pay the bills and a bit more I'm happy.

VAT registration is not based on earnings, it based on turn over, so the sum total of your invoices to customers......

If you are SE and do lots of high value "installs" you could easily smash through the £81K threshold - and remember HMRC can apply ANY 12 month period that suits them - not you!

 

[davesparks]

On the other hand if you do a lot of labour-only work then you can have a relatively low turnover.

 

[Octopus]

On the other hand if you do a lot of labour-only work then you can have a relatively low turnover.

The OP talks about doing their own rewires.....

 

[sparksburnout]

If your just doing domestic forget about the NIC go with Stroma they are much cheaper and they all provide the same thing. ALL domestic customers havnt got a clue what the scams are so having an NIC sticker on your van means nothing.

 

[Leesparkykent]

If your just doing domestic forget about the NIC go with Stroma they are much cheaper and they all provide the same thing. ALL domestic customers havnt got a clue what the scams are so having an NIC sticker on your van means nothing.

Only today I had a potential customer ask me if I was NIC registered they didn't say are you part P registered. Must be all the Subliminal advertising the NICEIC do lol.

 

[sparksburnout]

Only today I had a potential customer ask me if I was NIC registered they didn't say are you part P registered. Must be all the Subliminal advertising the NICEIC do lol.

What a domestic one??? You must have had an enquiry from the only domestic customer in the country that knows what part P is!

 

[Leesparkykent]

What a domestic one??? You must have had an enquiry from the only domestic customer in the country that knows what part P is!

Yep a domestic customer. Must be all the program's Dominic Littlewood and Matt Allwright do putting the Shivers up people lol.

 

[Octopus]

Lots of customers on my patch are well aware of Part P......

 

[Leesparkykent]

Lots of customers on my patch are well aware of Part P......

Same here in my manor.

 

[TJ Anderson]

Same here in my manor.

OMG, Danny Dyer is on the forum

 

[Leesparkykent]

OMG, Danny Dyer is on the forum

Haha.....

 

[Lee76]

vat registered ?? Wow wow wow wow
I'm talking small fry to start , just mostly
minor works and full rewires when they come along.

I understand we need to be registered with them lot
if we do any work such as :

working in bathrooms
outside lights
extra sockets
Any new installations
and board changes

I can't see the point in being an electrician who
can only do minor works so at present I'm willing to pay the fee to them.

im fancing elecsa at the mo?

anyone have a preference ?

 

[Des 56]

Lee.where in Wales are you,I have worked a lot in many of the council areas and have yet to find any local authority with the slightest interest in compliance with part P (other than on their own tendered work)

If you are doing private domestic,few if any exactly gives a hoot about part p compliance especially the householder?

If you do register,you certainly can rewire that empty house and get the scam to inspect
To the letter of the regs you are supposed to inform the council and pay a large fee,but why pay (if you can avoid) in order to do the job you were trained for ?

 

[Lee76]

Lee.where in Wales are you,I have worked a lot in many of the council areas and have yet to find any local authority with the slightest interest in compliance with part P (other than on their own tendered work)

If you are doing private domestic,few if any exactly gives a hoot about part p compliance especially the householder?

If you do register,you certainly can rewire that empty house and get the scam to inspect
To the letter of the regs you are supposed to inform the council and pay a large fee,but why pay (if you can avoid) in order to do the job you were trained for ?

South Wales , Bridgend area.
The only time the building inspector cares I guess is
if it's say an extension on a house , where they want to see the
Test certificate, the owner of that house would surely want an
electrician who can sign their own work off to wire that extension.

So If the council don't care, do some electrians get away with doing major
works and don't issue any certificate and move onto the next job
if the home owners don't care ?