Is this JB adequate for the design and use.

[Shaun H]

I found this JB in the loft, the mice have eaten the JB cover as well as some of the wiring, but aside all that in your opinion do you think the JB is overloaded?

 

[Dustydazzler]

Take them to the local clay pigeon shoot.

Yeah Or might throw a couple in free when I sell my red black cable stock

I have over 1000m of red black twin and earth soon to hit Ebay when its over £1 per mtr

 

[brianmoooore]

As most of the cables are Red & Black T&E I would not think this JB has been put in recently so the reference to "these days" is probably not appropriate.

You think the replacement should be 'period' appropriate?

 

[Dustydazzler]

You think the replacement should be 'period' appropriate?

I could sell them some old JBs and drums of old red black cable and they could go full on sympathetic 'to the period'

 

[mainline]

You think the replacement should be 'period' appropriate?

I can't think of what else he means. ?

Maybe he can explain.

 

[Mike Johnson]

You think the replacement should be 'period' appropriate?

Should I take out the RCBO's and replace with re-wirable fuse's.

 

[DPG]

Should I take out the RCBO's and replace with re-wirable fuse's.

The comment was referring to someone's suggestion of replacing the OP's existing JB with a J601 screw terminal one rather than a wago type. He wasn't referring to the original junction box.

 

[7029 dave]

I can't think why someone would use a screw terminal JB these days, when it's far quicker to wago type and make it maintenance free, whether needed to be or not.

Whats wrong with screw terminals, they have been around for decades.
Just for info I was altering some wiring last year for a friend, wagos in the back of a switch for the N not much slack so instead of cutting the wago off (push in type) I pulled the conductor out and it didnt take much to pull out, just thought id share that.

 

[DPG]

Whats wrong with screw terminals, they have been around for decades.
Just for info I was altering some wiring last year for a friend, wagos in the back of a switch for the N not much slack so instead of cutting the wago off (push in type) I pulled the conductor out and it didnt take much to pull out, just thought id share that.

And MCB and main switch terminals also are screw type.

 

[mainline]

Whats wrong with screw terminals, they have been around for decades.
Just for info I was altering some wiring last year for a friend, wagos in the back of a switch for the N not much slack so instead of cutting the wago off (push in type) I pulled the conductor out and it didnt take much to pull out, just thought id share that.

I've nothing against them, it's more to do with ease and also being maintenance free.

 

[7029 dave]

I've nothing against them, it's more to do with ease and also being maintenance free.

They are only MF if used with the enclosure

 

[mainline]

They are only MF if used with the enclosure

Would you use them without ?

 

[7029 dave]

Would you use them without ?

Nope just stating the wago itself is not MF

 

[davesparks]

instead of cutting the wago off (push in type) I pulled the conductor out and it didnt take much to pull out, just thought id share that.

Why would you cut it off when you can just remove the conductors from it?

A pull with a bit of a twist is the method for removing the conductors.

What are you actually trying to get at here?

 

[7029 dave]

Why would you cut it off when you can just remove the conductors from it?

A pull with a bit of a twist is the method for removing the conductors.

What are you actually trying to get at here?

Nothing

 

[ipf]

Would you use them without ?

I don't see what the difference is, if using another make of box. I use Wiska boxes with them and can't see a problem.

 

[mainline]

I don't see what the difference is, if using another make of box. I use Wiska boxes with them and can't see a problem.

My question was in using them without an enclosure at all.

Also, I think the enclosure would have to be stamped MF if used as BS 5733 Maintenance Free box.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Seen plnety Wagos just thrown under floors and in voids without a box of any kind

 

[ipf]

Seen plnety Wagos just thrown under floors and in voids without a box of any kind

Damn sight worse than an Ashley 301 or 401.

 

[nicebutdim]

Damn sight worse than an Ashley 301 or 401.

It's to be expected. The same people who routinely left loose connector blocks in their wake, now have a faster and easier way of leaving a mess.

 

[ipf]

It's to be expected. The same people who routinely left loose connector blocks in their wake, now have a faster and easier way of leaving a mess.

Things never change.......but more people may be qualified to do it, these days.

 

[mainline]

Damn sight worse than an Ashley 301 or 401.

Nothing wrong with them if they are correctly fitted, but a lot aren't.

 

[mainline]

Things never change.......but more people may be qualified to do it, these days.

I would rather be experienced than qualified.

 

[ipf]

I would rather be experienced than qualified.

That's my point. What do quals count for these days?

 

[ipf]

Nothing wrong with them if they are correctly fitted, but a lot aren't.

....and that's my point, too......why keep reiterating?

 

[DPG]

Where's the OP gone anyway?

 

[ipf]

Where's the OP gone anyway?

Wiring for a swimming pool, maybe?

 

[7029 dave]

Where's the OP gone anyway?

He's bored with this thread

 

[mainline]

....and that's my point, too......why keep reiterating?

Seen plnety Wagos just thrown under floors and in voids without a box of any kind

You replied, "Damn sight worse than an Ashley 301 or 401." meaning that the wago's that are being used without enclosures are worse than a 301 or 401.

My reply to that was Only if the 301 etc is fitted properly.

 

[ipf]

You replied, "Damn sight worse than an Ashley 301 or 401." meaning that the wago's that are being used without enclosures are worse than a 301 or 401.

My reply to that was Only if the 301 etc is fitted properly.

Agreed, but I think that's a bit obvious, don't you.

 

[mainline]

Agreed, but I think that's a bit obvious, don't you.

Obviously not to some, as there are still probably 100s fitted incorrectly.