I sort of hear what they are saying though. The MCB recommendation may not be the same as the cable manufacturer recommendation so which one would you follow? Or just use your hand and common sense to terminate properly.

Yeah I usually do all the breakers with the torque driver and then all the met and neutrals bars. I leave the 1mms till the end and do them by hand to avoid having to re terminate.
 
Anyone who would tighten a termination and see the cable snap, and not question the validity of the recommended tightening torque or the torque driver, needs their common sense taken into question IMHO
 
I can understand the first few times. Nice new tool. Don't want to slag it off yet.

Then after the 10th time - bolloxs to this - bottom of my toolbox until the next van tool amnesty....
 
Anyone ever changed a Spare Wheel and got their Torque Wrench out to Tighten up the Wheel Bolts ?
nope because the only flat tyre ive had couldnt be changed as the vechical was in a ditch and the boot was obstructed
 
Anyone ever changed a Spare Wheel and got their Torque Wrench out to Tighten up the Wheel Bolts ?

Nope, I've only ever used the torque wrench for a few critical things such as tightening cylinder head bolts and tensioning the timing belt
 
The nearest I have come to one is looking at it on a wholesalers shelve and saying "why would I need one of those?".
 
I'm surprised you highly trained God like electricians which you all claim to be don't follow the regs and use one. Baffling
 
I'm surprised you highly trained God like electricians which you all claim to be don't follow the regs and use one. Baffling

Far from it mate. I have made many many mistakes in my time. Hopefully learnt from them all. Just don't trust those drivers that is all. I trust my own judgement better. If they work for you mate all good. They just don't work for me.
 
Following and understanding the manufactures instructions which they all state that the connections should be done to a specific NM.
 
Which regulation would that be then?
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if you use the torque setting and it weakens the mechanical strength of the conductor you are going against the regs.

it only advises to follow manufacturer's instructions it doesnt say you should blindly follow them
 
Don't know you seem keen though why don't you look it up. Seems you don't have much else going on

You are accusing people of not complying with the regulations, it is only fair that you cite the regulation(s) that you are basing this accusation on.
 
Don't know you seem keen though why don't you look it up. Seems you don't have much else going on
134.1.1 it doesnt say "installed in accordance to manufacturer's anymore " anymore

it says take into account in bs7671 Amendment 3:2015
 
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if you use the torque setting and it weakens the mechanical strength of the conductor you are going against the regs.

it only advises to follow manufacturer's instructions it doesnt say you should blindly follow them

I agree. It says you need to 'take account'. So if you read them and made a call on site that they are not appropriate then continued anyway to follow the manufacturers recommendations then you would still be in violation of this reg.

Very carefully worded reg...
 
Funnily enough David i do not carry a regs book wherever I go it seems pointless. It's on the van and I'm watching countryfile so you will have to entertain yourself I'm afraid nighty night.
 
I agree. It says you need to 'take account'. So if you read them and made a call on site that they are not appropriate then continued anyway to follow the manufacturers recommendations then you would still be in violation of this reg.

Very carefully worded reg...
you dont need to follow the manufacturer's instructions at all and no problems if you don't, its there in black and white.

i don't carry the regs with me but it is on the shelf in my office and im sat in there now on pc
 
Funnily enough David i do not carry a regs book wherever I go it seems pointless. It's on the van and I'm watching countryfile so you will have to entertain yourself I'm afraid nighty night.

With respect you started it about the regs.
 
Funnily enough David i do not carry a regs book wherever I go it seems pointless. It's on the van and I'm watching countryfile so you will have to entertain yourself I'm afraid nighty night.
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The problem I have is the torque seems to vary. One time it clicks with not too much effort, the next got to use a lot more force to get it to click. Took it back but out of warranty so bought another and its the same, just returned it. Its the well known Wiha, not sure if I got a faulty batch or something.
 
Got a Wiha torque checker and it tests OK, so must be alright.
Just a bit tighter torques than I expected.
 
I’m sure this isn’t the only thread about torque screwdrivers…. But maybe the oldest.
 

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