FITTING A SPOT LIGHT IN ROMFORD ESSEX

[olakunle]

Hello all,
so i will be typing the entire issue -
i just need some advice - my mum has just had her extension done and this builder has charged

6x45 and 8x45 for fitting 14 spotlights in the old and now new living room joined
SO 45X6 =270
45X8 = 360
AND HE HAS THE CHARGED FOR MATERIAL AGAIN ON TOP OF THAT FOR £168 -
I JUST FEEL THIS IS WRONG - CAN SOMEONE HELP TO ADVISE -

ALSO WHEN EXTENTION WAS DONE - DUE TO THE BEAM HE USED AS SUPPORT WHEN WALL WAS TAKEN DOWN - DUST EVERYWHERE - LIVING ROOM HAD TO BE RE DECORATED -
HE ALSO PUT A NEW BATHROOM UIPSTARIRS AND NOW WE HAVE RE DECORATE -
HE HAS CLASSED ALL THIS AS EXTRA WORK - AND I CANT EVEN GO INTO THE LIST OF BILL AS IT SOUNDS SO RIDICULOUS TO ME -

WAS HOPING SOMEONE WILL KNOW A BUILDER WHO COULD HEP GO THROUGH THE QUOTE AND SEE IF HE HAS ACTUALLY BEEN FAIR OR NOT -

BILL GOING TO ALMOST 14THOUSAND POUNDS OUTSIDE THE 33600 BNUDGET FOR THE EXTENTION AND NEW BATHROOM UPSTAIRS -

 

[shaun1]

Do you know the Make/model of the spotlights fitted? Have you definitely got those figures the right way round? £45 per light for materials doesn't sound too unreasonable for LED downlighters if they are decent quality fittings. And £168 total labour to fit them doesnt sound too unreasonable to me either.

 

[The Ghost]

Did you get an electrical certificate? Sounds cheap to me, is the work good? It always astonishes me that people are surprised knocking a wall down causes dust. Did you get planning permission and building control approval?

 

[olakunle]

No..

 

[olakunle]

Do you know the Make/model of the spotlights fitted? Have you definitely got those figures the right way round? £45 per light for materials doesn't sound too unreasonable for LED downlighters if they are decent quality fittings. And £168 total labour to fit them doesnt sound too unreasonable to me either.

The spot light he bought u have checked on line and it costs 10quid....

So he has charge 45 quid per fitting of 1 spot light 14 In total so that's 45pounds x14 spot lights that's 630 pounds in total fo 14 spotlights..i would have thought the 45 pounds per fitting would cover the spot light material and workmanship? Or is that not the case please?

 

[The Ghost]

Why didn't you check beforehand.

 

[123]

The price seems reasonable to me given your location. Doesn't seem as though he has stuck the arm in with materials either if 1 light is a tenner

 

[Jamie']

£20-£40 is the going rate for a decent LED fitting. The extra material may be for cable, sleeving, cable clips etc..
Also why is 3/4 of your post in capitals? Most people won't bother reading it.

 

[rolyberkin]

Building work aside the electrical work you list sounds quite cheap for Romford, the average labour price for fitting a downlight is probably around £50. I cannot comment on the 14k over and above the original price. Were these types of lights specified in the original quote or was the original quote for a single pendant? The thing you have to remember is that there are massive overheads in running a business such as liabilities insurance, indemnity insurance, vehicle costs, fuel costs, tool costs, testing equipment costs, testing equipment calibration, scheme membership, training, accountancy, oh and paying tax! Any job is not all profit (I wish it was!).

 

[PEG]

No..

Is that "No" to the planning/building control?

 

[Cadgey123]

Sounds cheap to me... you got the builders number??

 

[MJPD29]

For the electrical work if it is certified the price sounds right, the rest of the building work I can't help with

 

[stefan888]

i found some smart led downlights with 3 colour temperatures in one fitting. they are also fire rated 8watt and dimmable

Spot Lights > LED Fire Rated Spot Downlight | Voltacon - https://www.ledison-led-lights.co.uk/bc/spot-lights-led-fire-rated-spot-downlight/8-61.htm

 

[stefan888]

average fitting cost for led lights is around £10 per lighting point. In some case the electricians will responsibly recycle your old CFL lights. So 10GBP is OK

 

[123]

average fitting cost for led lights is around £10 per lighting point. In some case the electricians will responsibly recycle your old CFL lights. So 10GBP is OK

I wouldn't get out of bed for it, and we are significantly cheaper this side of the pond. £10 labour a downlight, no chance, not even close

 

[Cadgey123]

average fitting cost for led lights is around £10 per lighting point. In some case the electricians will responsibly recycle your old CFL lights. So 10GBP is OK

Where in China are you buying your fittings?
That ain’t no average

 

[Octopus]

So £45 for labour and just over £10 for each light fitting

so £55 per light - if its a decent fitting and LED lamp then around the right price.

AND if the builder is paying the spark, then he will have a mark up.

You need to make sure you get certificates from the builder/spark as your BCO will need them before you get a completion certificate.

 

[rolyberkin]

average fitting cost for led lights is around £10 per lighting point. In some case the electricians will responsibly recycle your old CFL lights. So 10GBP is OK

Really! £10 fitting? Perhaps by a cowboy outfit, but definitely not if they are a legitimate contractor, are insured and are paying tax!

 

[stefan888]

yes they do if you use local electricians. i am not allowed to post adverts but trust me for 15 down lights paid 150+VAT

the wholesalers dont make this money selling led spots and covering even 5 year warranty. anyway i just wanted to say what i found. i agree there cowboys as well

 

[richy3333]

£10 for a proper LED recessed light fitting, no chance. They normally don’t just magic themselves into the ceiling either, allowing for laying out, joist positions etc.

No builers going to go through your mams bill for nothing. Anyhow, you’d be better off with a QS/BS or architect to look at that. Check out their prices. How come figures weren’t agreed at the start?!

 

[richy3333]

yes they do if you use local electricians. i am not allowed to post adverts but trust me for 15 down lights paid 150+VAT

the wholesalers dont make this money selling led spots and covering even 5 year warranty. anyway i just wanted to say what i found. i agree there cowboys as well

Sometimes people get what they pay for?

 

[Hellmooth]

Who said it was a full led fitting, it might just be a spotlight with led lamp? So £15 would cover a good fitting and lamp.

 

[olakunle]

Hi All,

I still think i haven't been clear enough - so, the builder advised that per led light fitting he will charge £45 for one led light - the led light he has used costs£9.99 each -
14 led lights in total to be fitted - £9.99 led light included in the £45 -

so £45 x 14 ledlights £630
he has then charged another £168 for materials -
making £798 for 14 led lights to be fitted -

i was thinking the £45 per fitting covers all the materials that will be used for the one led fitting -

and just wondering why another £168 -

Thank you all for your help

 

[Hellmooth]

Have you asked him?

 

[olakunle]

So £45 for labour and just over £10 for each light fitting

so £55 per light - if its a decent fitting and LED lamp then around the right price.

AND if the builder is paying the spark, then he will have a mark up.

You need to make sure you get certificates from the builder/spark as your BCO will need them before you get a completion certificate.

Thank you so much for the reply - much appreciated

I still think i haven't been clear enough - so, the builder advised that per led light fitting he will charge £45 for one led light - the led light he has used costs£9.99 each -
14 led lights in total to be fitted - £9.99 led light included in the £45 -

so £45 x 14 ledlights £630
he has then charged another £168 for materials -
making £798 for 14 led lights to be fitted -

i was thinking the £45 per fitting covers all the materials that will be used for the one led fitting -

and just wondering why another £168 -

Thank you all for your help

 

[olakunle]

Have you asked him?

He is claiming material - that was never mentioned - all he said was £45 per fitting and he will be doing 14 -

 

[olakunle]

Sounds cheap to me... you got the builders number??

Thanks for your reply - much appreciated

I still think i haven't been clear enough - so, the builder advised that per led light fitting he will charge £45 for one led light - the led light he has used costs£9.99 each -
14 led lights in total to be fitted - £9.99 led light included in the £45 -

so £45 x 14 ledlights £630
he has then charged another £168 for materials -
making £798 for 14 led lights to be fitted -

i was thinking the £45 per fitting covers all the materials that will be used for the one led fitting -

and just wondering why another £168 -

If everyone saysthats hows its priced id pay but i just want to make sure im not being cheated

Thank you all for your help

 

[Octopus]

Thank you so much for the reply - much appreciated

I still think i haven't been clear enough - so, the builder advised that per led light fitting he will charge £45 for one led light - the led light he has used costs£9.99 each -
14 led lights in total to be fitted - £9.99 led light included in the £45 -

so £45 x 14 ledlights £630
he has then charged another £168 for materials -
making £798 for 14 led lights to be fitted -

i was thinking the £45 per fitting covers all the materials that will be used for the one led fitting -

and just wondering why another £168 -

Thank you all for your help

You need to ask you builder, in writing, why the cost is higher than he quoted.

I still think its cheap, especially the light - how do you know the buy price?