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I think you may have to brush up on your salesman skills, or failing that just lie.
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Oh, oh yes, of course:
Wanted - Are you in the peak of physical prime? Want to prove your dedication? Have you previously practised being a duck? If so, then call now for immediate on-site week long free trial.
Any better?
Now you're begining to sound like an advert for the Army.
I once worked for someone through an Agency. After three days he asked if I would be willing to work direct.
I made the mistake of saying 'yes', to which he replied that he would inform the Agency that I had only worked there for the one day.
The reason it was a mistake, is because he wanted to pay me 30 days after I submitted my invoice, and he was not paying any more than the Agency.
The Agency would have paid me each friday a week in arrears.
As that was the third time I had been messed about when going direct, I then decided not to bother again, and to stick to Agencies.
Not that the Agencies won't mess you about.
Agencies on the other hand have electricians and usually other trades on hand who they will call around to fill the position, often at short notice. Some of them might be rubbish, some might leave the job halfway through because they have a longer job coming up, some might be on the phone all the time trying to get their next job, but to a certain degree you have to accept that because if you're not looking out for their next job then it's up to them to make sure their rent/mortgage gets paid and kids fed.
A lot of employers nowadays seem to expect the moon on a stick but aren't prepared to offer much in return, expecting workers to be eternally grateful for a couple of odd days work here and there at a moments notice.
Had you advertised a full time permanent position at JIB rates with van, tools, uniform etc supplied you would have been inundated.
Why don't you try translating your advert into Polish?
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Lol rain or not somerset is a little to far for I which is a shame as i would be willing mate maybe someone else closer will turn up
Good luck and Good on ya for giving someone a chance
there are loads on Lv3 course I am doing who are in need of work so Engineer is on the right track however as for real class experience errrrmmm This college course isnt as good as any of the courses I have done Private training providers or college for 2391
My Apprenticeship at 16 had a lot more science ,Maths and most of all practical training as well as 4 week block of work on site then 6 at college
whereas it seems all that happens on Lv3 is half dont turn up and Lv3 is taught by given print outs for the different units and outcomes with very little writing or maths and even less practical and was told lV2 is the same
There should be 1 set of quals for all and it shouldnt cost you the earth to do them like the Private ones and now it seems the colleges are playing catch upon course fees and they are on the rise But the qualifcation isnt
Anyway happy Hunting Rocking it and you would probably teach them more than the colleges or training providers ever could
Good luck and Good on ya for giving someone a chance
there are loads on Lv3 course I am doing who are in need of work so Engineer is on the right track however as for real class experience errrrmmm This college course isnt as good as any of the courses I have done Private training providers or college for 2391
My Apprenticeship at 16 had a lot more science ,Maths and most of all practical training as well as 4 week block of work on site then 6 at college
whereas it seems all that happens on Lv3 is half dont turn up and Lv3 is taught by given print outs for the different units and outcomes with very little writing or maths and even less practical and was told lV2 is the same
There should be 1 set of quals for all and it shouldnt cost you the earth to do them like the Private ones and now it seems the colleges are playing catch upon course fees and they are on the rise But the qualifcation isnt
Anyway happy Hunting Rocking it and you would probably teach them more than the colleges or training providers ever could
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Oh, oh yes, of course:
Wanted - Are you in the peak of physical prime? Want to prove your dedication? Have you previously practised being a duck? If so, then call now for immediate on-site week long free trial.
Any better?
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you and madmac been kissing and whispering again 
im free if you pay me flights for wife to be and kids
im free if you pay me flights for wife to be and kids
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Now you're begining to sound like an advert for the Army.
I once worked for someone through an Agency. After three days he asked if I would be willing to work direct.
I made the mistake of saying 'yes', to which he replied that he would inform the Agency that I had only worked there for the one day.
The reason it was a mistake, is because he wanted to pay me 30 days after I submitted my invoice, and he was not paying any more than the Agency.
The Agency would have paid me each friday a week in arrears.
As that was the third time I had been messed about when going direct, I then decided not to bother again, and to stick to Agencies.
Not that the Agencies won't mess you about.
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Having a serious moment; I think I actually may just get an agency bod or two to break the back of what I need to happen. There are 2 or 3 guys I know that I would normally use but they're all busy at the moment.
But cutting back to the original post, I'm just amazed and disappointed that at a time when we're told that things are so bad and people are out of work etc, that you offer around some work and for respectable money, and nobody seems interested.
But cutting back to the original post, I'm just amazed and disappointed that at a time when we're told that things are so bad and people are out of work etc, that you offer around some work and for respectable money, and nobody seems interested.
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What did you expect to happen if you advertised a weeks work in a jobcentre? The people who are going to see that are people who are signing on and would lose their benefits if they work over 14 hours a week, and would then be back to square one with no job having to fill in all the forms and wait 6-8 weeks before they get any money again, including rent.
Agencies on the other hand have electricians and usually other trades on hand who they will call around to fill the position, often at short notice. Some of them might be rubbish, some might leave the job halfway through because they have a longer job coming up, some might be on the phone all the time trying to get their next job, but to a certain degree you have to accept that because if you're not looking out for their next job then it's up to them to make sure their rent/mortgage gets paid and kids fed.
A lot of employers nowadays seem to expect the moon on a stick but aren't prepared to offer much in return, expecting workers to be eternally grateful for a couple of odd days work here and there at a moments notice.
Had you advertised a full time permanent position at JIB rates with van, tools, uniform etc supplied you would have been inundated.
Why don't you try translating your advert into Polish?
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What you can do of course is just drive the van slowly down the road early in the morning and there will be "labourers" waiting for a days graft for sure....whats the goin rate for em now? £30 a day each......:saddam:sama:
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Ive just found this website after trying to find work experience through google. Hi Everyone. I noticed this thread and couldnt believe what im reading. Im 22, i decided i wanted to a spark back in summer last year and started applying for apprenticeships. No one was taking anybody on at the time so i paid for the first year of college myself (i was only person on my course without an electricians job). Now ive finished ive started my second year doing 2330 level 3 but had to move colleges as i still cannot find any employment. Ive written to every electrician in my town and the surrounding villages and not one person can offer me anything. Now im being forced to apply to city's away from my home because there is zero oppotunity where i live. If anyone lives near Grantham Lincolnshire PLEASE GET IN TOUCH!
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What area are you requiring electricians?
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i disagree with the agency sparks are rubbish viewpoint. The reason being:- I am one. I dont think im rubbish, and the day i do, i will stop doing it, because thats when i will have lost all enthusiasm, and respect for my trade.
You will get crap sparks in any walk of life, and if your prepared to offer a good rate, and if using an agency, use one that specialises in electrical recruitment, then your more likely to get someone decent. I work through meridian business support, and to be honest, i havent met many crap sparks who have worked for them, and ive done over a year for them now.
You will get crap sparks in any walk of life, and if your prepared to offer a good rate, and if using an agency, use one that specialises in electrical recruitment, then your more likely to get someone decent. I work through meridian business support, and to be honest, i havent met many crap sparks who have worked for them, and ive done over a year for them now.
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