Fire rated downlights

[flukey]

hi all,
just pricing up a downlight job that i really want/need to win. havent done any downlights for a while and just want to clarify that when installing fire rated downlights they dont need a hood and the insulation in the loft will rest quite happily on them. i have always installed covers but would like to keep the price competitive

 

[Spudnik]

Fire rated means they will prevent the spread of fires between floors.

They still need to be clear of insulation.

you could use something like this to keep the lagging off the fitting:

Fireguard Loftbrace for 400mm Joist Centers

 

[rob the sparky]

Buy the jcc range from edmonsons,if you get on with the guys behind the desk they give you good deals.the jcc range have firehoods on them and i would always advise not putting insulation on them,no matter what the make.

 

[Staffie]

Buy the jcc range from edmonsons,if you get on with the guys behind the desk they give you good deals.the jcc range have firehoods on them and i would always advise not putting insulation on them,no matter what the make.

The JCC range are awful, all I ever seem to do is to install new transformers on the LV range and the quality of their lights is pretty bad!

Do yourself a favour mate and install something of good quality. Remember, it's your name on the job!

Don't know whether your wholesaler can supply them, but I use a low energy, fire rated, double insulated unit, lamp supplied too, they are from ELD distribution. They really are the 'dogs'

I pay about £11.50 a pop for them! Quality and price I've found nothing better!

You could always give them a ring, ask for Adam, tell him Stu said you'd sort him out with a good deal!

Click on 'low energy fire rated' in the left hand column

Garfield Electrical Supplies, Wholesale, Lighting, Pershore, Worcestershire, Worcester

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[rob the sparky]

the jcc range are awful, all i ever seem to do is to install new transformers on the lv range and the quality of their lights is pretty bad!

Do yourself a favour mate and install something of good quality. Remember, it's your name on the job!

Don't know whether your wholesaler can supply them, but i use a low energy, fire rated, double insulated unit, lamp supplied too, they are from eld distribution. They really are the 'dogs'

i pay about £11.50 a pop for them! Quality and price i've found nothing better!

You could always give them a ring, ask for adam, tell him stu said you'd sort him out with a good deal!

Click on 'low energy fire rated' in the left hand column

garfield electrical supplies, wholesale, lighting, pershore, worcestershire, worcester

staff...

i cant believe you pay 11.50 per spotlight.ive had no problems with jcc and they are a real good price.i know its your name going on the job but in the middle of a recession people cant afford to spend that much on spots,because they need to make the most money they can from the job.

 

[flukey]

Fire rated means they will prevent the spread of fires between floors.

They still need to be clear of insulation.

you could use something like this to keep the lagging off the fitting:

Fireguard Loftbrace for 400mm Joist Centers

hi jason,
am i right in saying that downlighters in top floor ceilings and bungalow ceilings dont need to be fire rated then??

 

[Mr Mark Sparks]

the jcc fire rated 11w lights say there is no need to remove insulation i have e mailed robus to see what they say i have some to fit soon

 

[Spudnik]

hi jason,
am i right in saying that downlighters in top floor ceilings and bungalow ceilings dont need to be fire rated then??

Yep, but i fit them anyway, considering the cost

the jcc fire rated 11w lights say there is no need to remove insulation i have e mailed robus to see what they say i have some to fit soon

There is no need to remove insulation on any of the LE d/lights

 

[Mr Mark Sparks]

There is no need to remove insulation on any of the LE d/lights

can i have that in writing
it will save me a load of climbing about

 

[flukey]

Yep, but i fit them anyway, considering the cost



There is no need to remove insulation on any of the LE d/lights

so to sum up jason, if i fit low voltage downlights there is no need for hoods

 

[Spudnik]

If they are fitted in a ceiling with a loft space above then no, no need for hoods, although the insulation must be clear of the fitting and tranny.

 

[Staffie]

i cant believe you pay 11.50 per spotlight.ive had no problems with jcc and they are a real good price.i know its your name going on the job but in the middle of a recession people cant afford to spend that much on spots,because they need to make the most money they can from the job.

I made a mistake, they were a 'tenner' and the quality is 'spot on', which I think is very cheap for this type of light, shop around and take a look!

BTW, not everybody is affected by the 'recession'! And I agree, JCC are a 'real good price', but you'll never convince me they're 'real good quality' All depends what you're used to I guess...

I give my customers a choice, this is the cheap range and this is the premium one, their choice. I guess it's like most consumables to a degree, 'you get what you pay for'

 

[Spudnik]

Must admit i find the 'Click' range of d/l to be very good!

Good size terminal block enclosed in a screwdown cover.

Not sure of the price, even though i have fitted hundreds of them recently

 

[Staffie]

Must admit i find the 'Click' range of d/l to be very good!

Good size terminal block enclosed in a screwdown cover.

Not sure of the price, even though i have fitted hundreds of them recently

I use a lot of click stuff, it's nice stuff compared to some of the 'contractor' rubbish about!

It's looks nice, customers like it and it doesn't hurt my profit margin....to much!

 

[rob the sparky]

I use a lot of click stuff, it's nice stuff compared to some of the 'contractor' rubbish about!

It's looks nice, customers like it and it doesn't hurt my profit margin....to much!

click are very good but i was sold a dodgey batch sometime ago.when the lights got hot you could not take to lamp holder out because it fused the metal to each other.

 

[Mr Mark Sparks]

the robus ones i fitted at the weekend were quite poor
designed for one cable only and the terminal block kept coming apart and falling off they cost 13.50 +vat low energy lamp inc

 

[flukey]

i ended up fitting some of these
Fire Stop 240v GU10 Fixed Fire Rated Downlight C/w Lamp - White - QVS Electrical Supplies | Electrical Wholesaler

i was really impressed with them for the money and they even came with the lamp. bargain at £6.50 each + the vat.

 

[Staffie]

i ended up fitting some of these
Fire Stop 240v GU10 Fixed Fire Rated Downlight C/w Lamp - White - QVS Electrical Supplies | Electrical Wholesaler

i was really impressed with them for the money and they even came with the lamp. bargain at £6.50 each + the vat.

They look identicle to ones I use, only I use the low energy version, double insulated too!