RCD Keeps tripping and not mcb and not on the same side as MCB

[Peter]

Hello hoping someone can urgently help with an issue I am having.

I am carrying out electrical works on a 2 bedroom flat that is being refurbished. All I have done is changed single sockets to double sockets. Taken away a socket that was spured off another socket. Moved some lights into the middle of the ceiling and moved 2 light switches.

I am also not sure if the fault was already there or not but everytime I plugged in something that draws a fair amount of power I.e heater or grinder it would trip the rcd. I thought it may be an rcd fault so I moved the mcb to the other rcd and changed the rcd I thought was faulty. Now what is happening is when you plug something in that draws power it stays on but still trips the same rcd that I changed even though the mcb is not on that rcd side ?

What could this be ?

 

[Lucien Nunes]

Likely to be a neutral-earth fault on a circuit on the side with the RCD that trips. Check the IR on all these circuits - it might have been pre-existing. The heavier the load, the more likely the trip, and it will happen regardless of which circuit the load is on.

 

[Midwest]

You probably have an earth neutral fault, either existing or one you've created.....…...too slow.

 

[-Matt]

When you moved the MCB to the other RCD, Did you also move the neutral over?

 

[westward10]

Test first, not later then you can be sure if faults are existing.

 

[buzzlightyear]

is the op a spark ? or some one pretending to be one .

 

[Octopus]

Any tests undertaken, other than the good old bang test?

 

[buzzlightyear]

other than the good old bang test?

5,4,3,2,1 .thunderbirds are go .

 

[Midwest]

Any tests undertaken, other than the good old bang test?

Mind you, them were the days. None of this faffing around with meters and bits of paper.

 

[buzzlightyear]

 

[Octopus]

Rcd's hadn't been invented then either

That's progress for you

 

[Taylortwocities]

When you moved the MCB to the other RCD, Did you also move the neutral over?

What he said^^^^^^^^

 

[Lucien Nunes]

But...

a) The problem was there before he changed anything in the board.
b) The circuit he moved now works, and doesn't trip its own RCD.
c) It trips mainly with heavy loads.

All three factors point at an N-E fault on any of the circuits on the RCD that trips, not necessarily the one that is loaded or the one he moved.

Sometimes I wonder if I'm the only person who actually reads the fault description before replying!

 

[MJPD29]

Do your testing first and find out exactly what it is changing rcds without finding the fault is false economy

 

[Midwest]

Sometimes I wonder if I'm the only person who actually reads the fault description before replying!

I know, and do they read what other members have posted as well, present company accepted.

 

[Octopus]

But...

a) The problem was there before he changed anything in the board.

Not sure I agree with that .......... he's fiddled with more than 1 circuit .... and doesn't say which RCD the other circuit(s) are on.......

 

[Wilko]

Hi - yep I'm going for the N-E fault too - and I raise that it's in one of the 1G to 2G outlet conversions you've just done (trapped N or some such) .

 

[Toneyz]

Hello hoping someone can urgently help with an issue I am having.

I am carrying out electrical works on a 2 bedroom flat that is being refurbished. All I have done is changed single sockets to double sockets. Taken away a socket that was spured off another socket. Moved some lights into the middle of the ceiling and moved 2 light switches.

I am also not sure if the fault was already there or not but everytime I plugged in something that draws a fair amount of power I.e heater or grinder it would trip the rcd. I thought it may be an rcd fault so I moved the mcb to the other rcd and changed the rcd I thought was faulty. Now what is happening is when you plug something in that draws power it stays on but still trips the same rcd that I changed even though the mcb is not on that rcd side ?

What could this be ?

Did you move the neutral to the other neutral terminal block?
as this would be the reason that the other RCD could be tripping out
I think that the reason the RCD tripped out in the first place would probably due to a neutral to earth fault, if this is so you want to move circuit back (together with neutral) I can't see your profile so I hope that this is a DIY job and not a paid job if so there has been no mention of testing.

 

[Sparksaflyin]

is the op a spark ? or some one pretending to be one .

Do you ever assist anyone or say anything positive? I thought the whole point of this site was to help out fellow sparks

 

[Sparksaflyin]

Hello hoping someone can urgently help with an issue I am having.

I am carrying out electrical works on a 2 bedroom flat that is being refurbished. All I have done is changed single sockets to double sockets. Taken away a socket that was spured off another socket. Moved some lights into the middle of the ceiling and moved 2 light switches.

I am also not sure if the fault was already there or not but everytime I plugged in something that draws a fair amount of power I.e heater or grinder it would trip the rcd. I thought it may be an rcd fault so I moved the mcb to the other rcd and changed the rcd I thought was faulty. Now what is happening is when you plug something in that draws power it stays on but still trips the same rcd that I changed even though the mcb is not on that rcd side ?

What could this be ?

Hello mate. Any idea as to the construction of this 2 bed flat? Would you know if the ceiling is suspended and fixed to tin hat?

 

[Sparksaflyin]

If so I’d bet my bottom dollar that you’ve clipped a neutral when you moved the lights into the centre of the room which and the neutral is touching down on the tin hat

 

[buzzlightyear]

Do you ever assist anyone or say anything positive? I thought the whole point of this site was to help out fellow sparks

defiantly maybe.,
on this forum there will be a little criticism from time to time to people not knowing what their are doing .
has they say don't like the heat stay out of the kitchen (tin hat on )
plus flack jacket .

 

[Sparksaflyin]

defiantly maybe.,
on this forum there will be a little criticism from time to time to people not knowing what their are doing .
has they say don't like the heat stay out of the kitchen (tin hat on )
plus flack jacket .

Criticism and banter are one thing. Trying to be a smartass incessantly is another thing all together!

 

[buzzlightyear]

Criticism and banter are one thing. Trying to be a smartass incessantly is another thing all together!

you said it !

 

[Sparksaflyin]

you said it !

Grow up mate! We’re all adults here (apparently) why don’t we behave like them