Right to repair legislation

[Dustydazzler]

EU brings in 'right to repair' rules for appliances

The rules will make household appliances longer-lasting and easier to fix.

www.bbc.co.uk

What do you think of this 'right to repair' legislation coming in/being considered?

 

[Spoon]

Sounds like a great idea but there is no mention about how much the price of these appliances will go up by. I bet it's quite a bit.

 

[Dustydazzler]

I seriously question how water tight these 10 year extended warranties will be...

 

[BruvDunk]

May well see some of the old style appliance repair shops re-appearing on the high street but I doubt it.

 

[Spoon]

This is not going to help the public with saving money.
Any part changed will have to be done by a professional as it will need to be tested afterwards, or if it goes faulty they will just say that it wasn't installed correctly.

 

[telectrix]

the EU should stick to fleecing countries of cash and meddling in "gender"and ethnic issues. leave electricals and appliance issues to those who have a clue about it.

 

[buzzlightyear]

I rememberwhen i was a kid things worked then amd never hardly brake
And now thing dont last long now .
We tend to throw things out if a wheel falls of a hoover.

 

[snowhead]

They've found a solution to a problem that doesn't exist, but will possbily be creating a problem as a result.

You can buy plenty of common spares for older machines now.
If manufacturers have to have all spares available for all machines produced from 2021, even if those spares will never be needed, then someone's got to pay and of course it's the consumer.

Anything with a new price of £150 isn't worth repairing, couple of hours labour plus a couple of parts and you'll have an old machine with a couple of new parts when you could have had an all new one.

They should rationalise the ranges of everthing.
I don't want the choice of 50 similar looking Bosch washing machines where only the programs are slightly different or 50,000 different coffee machines.

Speaking of which, I don't want any coffee machines.
And I don't want 1000 different Olive oils either, hopefullt Brexit will stop that.

 

[littlespark]

Repairing appliances isn’t cost effective (unless it’s your own) As explained above no one will pay a couple hours work plus parts when you can get a new one with a full warranty cheaper.

The manufacturers need to make appliances easier to dismantle, and easier to recycle.

 

[Dustydazzler]

My parents are the only people that I know who actually still use the old local white goods repair company.
But at £165 for a basic call out it’s very expensive

In many cases would be cheaper just buy a new cheap washing machine or cooker

 

[StephenRowley]

Sounds like a step in the right direction to me, but professionals only.

 

[DPG]

My parents are the only people that I know who actually still use the old local white goods repair company.
But at £165 for a basic call out it’s very expensive

In many cases would be cheaper just buy a new cheap washing machine or cooker

Jeez I need to get into appliance repair!

 

[Zerax]

We need to end the 'consumer society' by stopping the importation of cheap goods from abroad. Imagine if (say) you could only buy a good quality washing machine for £1,500, rather than the £200 cheap 'throw-away' one... you'd stop creating mountains of white-goods waste overnight !!

 

[DPG]

We need to end the 'consumer society' by stopping the importation of cheap goods from abroad. Imagine if (say) you could only buy a good quality washing machine for £1,500, rather than the £200 cheap 'throw-away' one... you'd stop creating mountains of white-goods waste overnight !!

I agree, but most people want cheap now unfortunately.

 

[Dustydazzler]

most peoples logic is they can buy and use till it blows up a £200 WM then just scrap it after 18 months , then rinse and repeat...
The thought of having the same WM for 20 years and keep repairing it would be totally alien now to anyone under 40

 

[telectrix]

this goes back a long time. i wound upmy TV repair business in 1980 due to customers being able to replace a faulty set ( maybe a £30 repair bill) with a brand new ine from Comet/Currys/ etc. £5 deposit and a change of address.

 

[sparkdog]

I always thought front loading washing machines were a flawed design anyway. All that weight of the full drum only supported by one bearing ( well two but only inches apart) maximum over stress and only a matter of time until it fails.

 

[DPG]

this goes back a long time. i wound upmy TV repair business in 1980 due to customers being able to replace a faulty set ( maybe a £30 repair bill) with a brand new ine from Comet/Currys/ etc. £5 deposit and a change of address.

It would only be the picture valve anyhow Tel. Les Laury-Jones told me.

 

[telectrix]

It would only be the picture valve line output stage pentode. anyhow Tel. Les Laury-Jones told me.

corrected that for you. .

 

[sparkdog]

Hey Tel, I was a telly repair man back then as well.

 

[DPG]

corrected that for you. .

Hybrid chassis? Big tellies

 

[Zerax]

most peoples logic is they can buy and use till it blows up a £200 WM then just scrap it after 18 months , then rinse and repeat...
The thought of having the same WM for 20 years and keep repairing it would be totally alien now to anyone under 40

I agree... I find it amusing/sad/despairing/ironic that it tends to be the youth that 'bang-on' the most about the need to save the planet... yet it is them that have absolutely no idea it's how they live that is causing it !! For a good visual example... just look at the waste left behind at Glastonbury !

 

[telectrix]

Hey Tel, I was a telly repair man back then as well.

yep, the thorn 3000 and 3500 were a great revenue source. along with the Philips G8, i think, and them awful dog sh*t by Bush.

 

[sparkdog]

"picture valve" the good old over stressed PL81 usually.
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Yes, I remember them well, the Thorns with their innovative "chopper transistor."

 

[Zerax]

Hey Tel, I was a telly repair man back then as well.

Like this Philips TX400 ??

 

[sparkdog]

I think that'ts about 1950s with its round tube.

 

[ipf]

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Like this Philips TX400 ??

You'd get people sitting on that, these days......for a purpose of course

 

[sparkdog]

Could probably use it as an X-ray machine.

 

[pirate]

My folks had an American style frigidaire fridge for 30 years...left it in their house when they sold it. 15 years later I was passing by the old house and saw a guy in the garden, so stopped and chatted to him...yup, he still had that fridge, in his garage full of beer!
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I love the old valve radios...a mate has about 50 of them scattered around his huge house, and I am so jealous! He has boxes of valves too...things of beauty.
My oldest item is a Hacker Sovereign...still awaiting restoration.

 

[DPG]

I've got a Hacker Autocrat. Repaired it by changing a resistor in the amplifier section, and also fitted a Bluetooth module to play the phone through it. Sounds lovely.

 

[pirate]

A thing of beauty, for sure...

My Dad had one of these:

But the earlier Transoceanic valve ones are much revered.
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Ah, nostalgia ain't what it used to be...

 

[DPG]

A think of beauty, for sure...

My Dad had one of these:

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But the earlier Transoceanic valve ones are much revered.
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Ah, nostalgia ain't what it used to be...

Looks classy that. Would have cost a fortune when new I bet.

 

[pirate]

He had a Grundig Sattelit too...can't recall which model...plus a brilliant Sony one which was designed for rack mounting of sorts, with all the marine bands
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Pleased to report I have a Marine Band too...
my absolute favourite!

As used by Neil Young and many others!

 

[Admin]

EU brings in 'right to repair' rules for appliances

The rules will make household appliances longer-lasting and easier to fix.

www.bbc.co.uk

What do you think of this 'right to repair' legislation coming in/being considered?

I've changed your wording to actually include a sentence.

Consider doing this yourself in future mate. We might not approve your posts that have "5 word rule" written in them.

 

[pirate]

Dan, if I could do it, I would change your wording actually to exclude a split infinitive!

 

[JK-Electrical]

 

[DPG]

Unfortunately I'm a product of today's society and so don't have the attention span to watch a 52 minute video. I don't even have the patience to finish this pos

 

[pirate]

t.
There you go, DPG, done that for you!

 

[FatAlan]

I rememberwhen i was a kid things worked then amd never hardly brake
And now thing dont last long now .
We tend to throw things out if a wheel falls of a hoover.

Too right. Good old Raleigh bicycles had great brakes that hardly ever used to break!
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1960s and 70’s cars used to fall apart after a few years. Current cars seen to go on for about 3 or 4 times longer before things start breaking. 40 years ago we could fix things more easily, now days you need much more specialist kit. Swings and round shouts me thinks. What proportion of average income is a car / washing machine now compared to 40 years ago?

 

[Dustydazzler]

My grandparents didn’t even own a car or a washing machine

They walked or buses everywhere and used the local launderette

How times have changed