Spurring off a ring

[richo106]

Hi,

I only have 1 socket in one my rooms but would like to install 2 more double sockets, the kitchen backs onto the room and i thinking about spurring of the one of the sockets in the kitchen, i was going to install fused spur (fused 13A) then off the load side install 2 double sockets. Is this ok? meet current regs?

All help appreciated

Thanks

 

[Chr!s]

Hi, are you a registered electrician?

 

[richo106]

Hi, are you a registered electrician?

Yes, industrial electrician. So like to get bit of advice before I do house work

 

[Octopus]

Look at the pretty pictures in the back of your copy of BS7671 (p453 BYB)

 

[7029 dave]

Is it on a RFC ?, you can spur off 1 per point if so. (make it a double)

 

[hightower]

FCU makes it legit OP so knock yourself out, however, I'd probably try and get a second cable in and extend the RFC.

 

[Flanders]

Is it on a RFC ?, you can spur off 1 per point if so. (make it a double)

Yes but the op is putting a 13 amp fuse in to protect the 2 sockets although not ideal i can t see a problem doing it this way as long as the sockets are to be use for low current items .

 

[richo106]

Could i extend one of the cables using 30amp connector blocks in the back box of the existing socket, then i could make the 2 new sockets part of the ring?

any thoughts on this?

 

[Leesparkykent]

Could i extend one of the cables using 30amp connector blocks in the back box of the existing socket, then i could make the 2 new sockets part of the ring?

any thoughts on this?

Yeah if you have the room but splice line connectors may be a better solution.

http://www.screwfix.com/p/ideal-spliceline-in-line-wire-connectors-pack-of-10/42201

 

[Hellmooth]

Could i extend one of the cables using 30amp connector blocks in the back box of the existing socket, then i could make the 2 new sockets part of the ring?

any thoughts on this?

Nothing to say you couldn't, not ideal though, if connections are done correctly I would use wagos instead of connector block, and change the back box to a 47mm give some room

 

[Hellmooth]

Yeah if you have the room but splice line connectors may be a better solution.

http://www.screwfix.com/p/ideal-spliceline-in-line-wire-connectors-pack-of-10/42201

+1 on the splice lines, got loads in the van but always go for the wagos for some reason, splice lines take up less space and allow a straight through connection.

 

[hightower]

+1 on the splice lines, got loads in the van but always go for the wagos for some reason, splice lines take up less space and allow a straight through connection.

And are rated higher than wago

 

[Octopus]

call me sceptical but electricity is the same in the home as in an industrial application ..... as are most of the regs ...

 

[wiganspark]

just a thought, does it have a separate kitchen ring? don't like the idea of 2 sockets in one room fed off the kitchen ring and the other fed off the house ring, I know its not against regs but always the potential for some numpty to attempt diy in the future.

 

[Octopus]

just a thought, does it have a separate kitchen ring? don't like the idea of 2 sockets in one room fed off the kitchen ring and the other fed off the house ring, I know its not against regs but always the potential for some numpty to attempt diy in the future.

Nothing usual about this at all. Very common imho

 

[kingeri]

just a thought, does it have a separate kitchen ring? don't like the idea of 2 sockets in one room fed off the kitchen ring and the other fed off the house ring, I know its not against regs but always the potential for some numpty to attempt diy in the future.

It sometimes can't be avoided, and to be fair anybody working on the circuit(s) in future should know what they are doing anyway, true?

 

[wiganspark]

It sometimes can't be avoided, and to be fair anybody working on the circuit(s) in future should know what they are doing anyway, true?

no doubt about it all! but should know what they are doing and actually knowing what they are doing are 2 different things, like ive said its not against regs and yes it will happen in lots of places just not something I like to do.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Could spur one socket from the socket in the kitchen perhaps and another from the existing socket in the room?
Then there would be no need for an FCU.

 

[stevethesparks]

And are rated higher than wago

The way cable can appear to loosely rotate in these connectors doesn't give me much confidence in them, I prefer the firm clamp the piano key wagos give.