The stage this industry is in TODAY, rubbish IMO.!
 
Originally we had the NICEIC and the ECA, NAPIT were created many years later solely as a testing based organisation. Bring along Part P and it has become a circus even the NICEIC who were previously held in high regard now have the Domestic Installer for the fast track "electrician".
One body or maybe two as it once was possibly dealing with different disciplines of the trade is the way forward with no route to membership for the fast trackers.
 
I can see a Commons Select Committee being convened to look into Part P ;)
 
Not particularly reasonable behavior. I'm amazed Mr Pratt was not made to do the job properly.
 
If the installation was not notified when complete, then Mr Pratt has broken the law. Does NAPIT consider this serious. Who would / could prosecute this breach of the law?
 
Hi, below are some of the requirements the scheme provider needs to meet,which clearly are not being met. Firstly get the name and contact details of a senior manager at Napit, then using the second link send in an email explaining your situation and any evidence.

It may be worth emailing the senior manager a copy of the conditions of authorisation and your intent to contact the DCLG in regards to Napits failings, it might make them to act.



https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...2860/CPS_Conditions_final__April_2016.pdfhttp:

forms.communities.gov.uk
Hi. thanks for the suggestion. Tried that link but got page not found. Do you have any others?
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if you have no trouble explaining the problems on here ?
Why do you have a problem explaining it to NAPIT ?
 
It's also a plastic cu in a cupboard under the stairs. The customer can't remember if it was before or after last January he did it but his installation cert is dated 23/3/17.

I don't want to out him on here but hopefully I'll get away with saying his surname is Pratt. Very ironic I thought
Is it actually pratt? Or just his fly by night trading name? Lol
 
If NAPIT don't respond appropriately to a follow up written complaint then as some one suggested above a letter to their MP asking them to write to DCLG to ask them to get NAPIT to comply with its duties referring to the CPS scheme doc linked to here and including the correspondence with NAPIT etc will likely have the desired effect. Responses to letters from MPs are read, approved and signed by the Minister responsible for that policy area, and fear of a related question in parliament means they often show a willingness to respond helpfully (or rather get their civil service minions to respond helpfully). Also, every government department must respond to all correspondence within a certain time period (something like 20 working days I think but I'm not certain) and some government departments have made a commitment to respond more quickly (you can look it up). Also, if you're not happy with the response you can just keep writing and they have to keep replying (as long as you address why their response is unsatisfactory or why the issue has not been resolved satisfactorily and keep it polite).
 
Is this another example of a public service responsibility being farmed out to a private enterprise that is raking in a profit but not actually doing its job of protecting the public?
 
£600 to do a consumer unit, no tests carried out and not even the basic checks, I can bet building control have not been informed either. Disgusting. I am a member of this scheme and we all get tarred with the same brush but I hold myself to a higher standard.
 
Contrary to what many assume is an important problem,whether its a scheme or a local authority,I believe that in the great scheme of things this is an expensive botch that will attract little if any interest
Its worthy of thought by those who know what should be a standard but its almost irrelevant as far as any scheme or Local authority action is concerned
 
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The Midnight Cowboy's are back...

OP is your avatar GTA Original? Your the monkey and I'm the cheese grater?
 
all us lost like buttons. something to do with dan messing about with a new serviette or summat.
 
Harold Cartwright. Brings back memories
My mates used to say I looked like him. Sadly the hair to scalp ratio has gone in the wrong direction since then. I now look more like Gahndi. Or Ming the merciless if I grow a goatee.
 
Someone posted the vid of the Commons Select Committee meeting circa 2014 on Part P, one where Mr D Skelton attended. I watched most of it, and the second half was rather interesting, Ms Clancy, & one of the SMT from Napit (I think) and others.

One of the questions by the committee asked about scheme members being 'struck off'. Ms Clancy was quoting some figures, 2% of 10%, or something ambiguous. They got a bit of a grilling from the committee. But clearly, much hasn't moved on in the last few years.

Whilst I always feel a bit anxious when I have my assessment, I do wonder on how much work is actually checked or competence is assessed. My work is domestic. It's difficult to arrange jobs for the assessor to view, it's an inconvenience for most customers. It would be great to have an on going job, for the assessor to view, but the timing has never been right. So all the jobs I've used have been completed ones. Not much to see, save opening up a CU, or looking at some faceplates or down lights etc.

I always get asked loads of technical questions, in amongst the chit chat, but for all he knows, I could be lashing it in with bell wire. I'm not of course :)
 
I got assessment Thursday but don't really do domestic, same problem though. Have you tried keeping a photographic record of a job you know you might go to.
 
I got assessment Thursday but don't really do domestic, same problem though. Have you tried keeping a photographic record of a job you know you might go to.

Yep I do actually, but he gets a bit bored after a while. Reminds me of me brother showing me his bespoke photo album of his Kenyan Safari Trip :openmouth:
 
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Stop being such a killer queen :rolleyes:
 
If I was a customer having been ripped off and left in an unsafe state like this I could inform building control, leave a bad internet reveiw and get someone competent in to make it safe. Or, as I'm lazy, probably just inform bbc's watchdog to do it all for me :)
 
I often judge people by their paperwork and this is a classic example, it is shocking. Have NAPIT defined what a more serious complaint is and what parameters they are using. They are clearly not interested and I for one would not let it go.

I agree @westward10 you can tell a lot by a sparks paperwork, the only people who understand the paperwork are other sparks not the customer so often no pride is taken..!
 
Stop tap is dribbling, I can't bond it. What a poor excuse. I'm amazed someone from NAPIT won't even visit. Hopefully they have at least contacted Mr Pratt for a word. On the plastic consumer unit I'd say it was definetly a problem as it could cause the occupier to become trapped if the stairs were burned away by an electrical fire. Oh and where can I buy this new telepathy installation tester that Mr Pratt seems to have? lol
Not in defence of this bloke,,But how many other houses etc have plastic C.U.'s? They are not all about to burst into flames are they,,,New builds etc after Amndt 3 Yes,,,But you cant fail older Installations just because they have plastic C.U.'s you just make a note that its safe but the C.U. Is pre Amndt 3,,,or do we all jump on the profiteering Bus??
 
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You could mention the chance of writing to your local/national newspaper or "Professional Electrician" magazine ?. That might cause muck in pants concern. Nothing ventured nothing *****.
 
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