What do you make about this drone at gatwick airport

[Gavin John Hyde]

Sure you have all heard or seen on news somebody has decided to send up a drone over the airport causing chaos.
Makes you wonder who it is? dont think its some loner in his or her bedroom as it is apparently commercial grade. Did wonder if it is some protest group? but no claim to fame by them just yet. Might even be some state sponsored outfit causing mischief.
Either way if they get caught they are getting a few years.
Apparently the police say it is too unsafe to shoot it down due to 'stray' bullets! suggest they get a better marksmen then and use different ammo. Now got the signals folk trying to triangulate the signal to control it.
I think there is a lot lot more that has not been said on the news about this strange case.

 

[GMES]

They deserve everything they get, it is ruining people's holidays and jobs.
Get em caught, give them a huge fine after calculating the cost of all the disruption and then give them a nice long stint in prison.

 

[telectrix]

bet you all it's SWD. he can't think of any more disruption on here, so he's branching out. .

 

[Rpa07]

Agree, idiots that don’t see the enormity of their consequences. Some may say it’s an overreaction but a drone in an engine could bring a plane with 300 passengers and crew and full tanks of fuel to a very shortened flight time.
I never realised, as well, the number of incidences of laser pointers being pointed at commercial and passenger planes.
These people need to grow up.
They need a comfy sofa with a gas fire and a tv to keep them out of trouble - it works for me!

 

[telectrix]

Agree, idiots that don’t see the enormity of their consequences. Some may say it’s an overreaction but a drone in an engine could bring a plane with 300 passengers and crew and full tanks of fuel to a very shortened flight time.
I never realised, as well, the number of incidences of laser pointers being pointed at commercial and passenger planes.
These people need to grow up.
They need a comfy sofa with a gas fire and a tv to keep them out of trouble - it works for me!

no,they need the birch bringing back,followed by conscription into the armed forces.

 

[snowhead]

Another problem with shooting it down, is in order to get a prosecution the operator has to be caught in the act with the remote that controls the drone.
If it's shot down the operator will just drive off, as I doubt they are stupid enough to do it from a fixed location.

 

[static zap]

Hope it not the virgin pilots getting the blame ! ..Some one is string the pot of unhappy..

 

[Rpa07]

What if they shoot the drone pilot then the ‘dead man switch’ will land the drone safely and the airport can start the planes running again.
Who shall I call with my idea? Is it 999?
Back in a mo!

 

[snowhead]

What if they shoot the drone pilot

Bit more of a deterent than potentially a 5 year sentence.

 

[Rpa07]

And no stray bullets! It’s a win win!
You probably have to feel for the mother but she probably didn’t like the little dweeb anyway!

 

[rapparee]

There was less disruption when the IRA decided to lob a few dud mortars onto Heathrow runway in 1994.

You would think they could shoot it with an EMP gun, drone down, crisis over.

 

[Kamikaze]

It’s probably just an Amazon test drone trying to deliver a parcel. Where is your Christmas spirit? If they shoot it down, then somebody’s Wacky Backy won’t be delivered for the festive season.

 

[Rpa07]

He’s available for corporate events and airport emergencies but then his rates are similar to Pimlico plumbing services!

 

[Bellendian]

I reckon this is a little more than a bunch of kids mucking about, makes you wonder what would happen if all airports were targeted simultaneously...no 'safe' place to divert, just take on the drones, or crash anyway when the gas runs out...scary stuff.

 

[Silly Sausage]

I 'like' the way they say that the airport's open but there are no flights.
What's the effing point?!?!

Tin foil hat time, it's obviously not some scrote farting about seeing as they haven't caught anyone yet and now that the Army is getting involved ...

 

[Baddegg]

The Russians are coming.....

 

[buzzlightyear]

I know it was not me ,because I'm grounded . maybe could be father xmas trying his new sledge out .

 

[GBDamo]

I think this could be a high tech ransom job, it's taken far too long to catch whosoever is responsible.

Either that or a false flag in order to bring in legislation to ban these devices.

 

[Silly Sausage]

I know it was not me ,because I'm grounded . maybe could be father xmas trying his new sledge out .

I was watching you on BBC 1 this afternoon. Impressive!

 

[multimick]

it's a good thing the russians aren't coming ,if they can't sort a bloody toy out ...beggars belief

 

[littlespark]

Drone description by one eye witness:

“It was remarkably deer shaped, with antlers and a big red nose.”

 

[Rpa07]

With GPS and long range antennas on the higher end drones, the perp could program the coordinates for the airport from the comfort of their sweaty arm chair and their mum as an alibi (even though she still thinks he’s a dweeb!)
Only thing that’ll give him away is an eye witness seeing it return to the roof of his tower block or his back garden - Big Brother is watching you!

 

[Kamikaze]

As it happens, I took an aerial photograph of the area this morning. Don’t know what all the fuss is all about. There is nothing exciting to see on it.

 

[FatAlan]

Shame. I could be stuck in Antigua over Xmas

 

[Squid]

bet you all it's SWD. he can't think of any more disruption on here, so he's branching out. .

My Drone is at home all safe and sound, why do you think I bought the soldering iron as how else am I going to reverse engineer it to fly with some semtex........

 

[Rpa07]

View attachment 46577 Shame. I could be stuck in Antigua over Xmas

Looking at those legs I think I shall just call you Alan from now on unless there is evidence during the belly flop competition, or isn’t it that sort of place?

 

[Squid]

Looking at those legs I think I shall just call you Alan from now on unless there is evidence during the belly flop competition, or isn’t it that sort of place?

Maybe he took a photo of his "partner"........

 

[FatAlan]

Looking at those legs I think I shall just call you Alan from now on unless there is evidence during the belly flop competition, or isn’t it that sort of place?

Don’t know about the belly flop competition but I am thinking of entering the before and after beer belly competition

 

[FatAlan]

Looking at those legs I think I shall just call you Alan from now on unless there is evidence during the belly flop competition, or isn’t it that sort of place?

As I said in a recent previous thread, it’s dangerous to make assumptions PS those are my legs and that was my beer

 

[FatAlan]

As I said in a recent previous thread, it’s dangerous to make assumptions PS those are my legs and that was my beer

Or should I say, those were my legs and that is my beer

 

[Rpa07]

I believe you but the only thing I don’t believe is that sky, looks like a gentle breeze to go along with it!
You could go off people, you know!

As I said in a recent previous thread, it’s dangerous to make assumptions PS those are my legs and that was my beer

 

[MFS Electrical]

Double post

 

[MFS Electrical]

The Russians are coming.....

The Russians?, zee Germans?what scaremongering is next?
It’s probably an EU drone there are consequences for brexit and this is it in the testing phase

Or should I say, those were my legs and that is my beer

Legless?

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

Another problem with shooting it down, is in order to get a prosecution the operator has to be caught in the act with the remote that controls the drone.
If it's shot down the operator will just drive off, as I doubt they are stupid enough to do it from a fixed location.

Forensics are pretty good if you touch something metal without gloves, even wiping your prints away doesnt work. The oils and chemicals on your fingertip leave a residue that can be used to retrieve prints.
If its petrol powered as some have hinted in news then fuel can be tracked to batches via chemical markers and stations.
Forensics is quite scary

 

[littlespark]

FOR SALE
Remote control drone, only used once, - good flyer.
Collect Gatwick area

 

[Strima]

I want to know what batteries they’re using. I can’t even get 16 hours out of my phone...

 

[Rpa07]

Forensics are pretty good if you touch something metal without gloves, even wiping your prints away doesnt work. The oils and chemicals on your fingertip leave a residue that can be used to retrieve prints.
If its petrol powered as some have hinted in news then fuel can be tracked to batches via chemical markers and stations.
Forensics is quite scary

Yep, all that will take about 43 minutes on TV but about 6 weeks in real life!

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

I know somebody in crawley which is half a mile from gatwick.
Took his dog out for walk tonight and says there are quite a few folk from the military and 'security services out'. He is ex forces himself and says you know who they are as they have ear pieces in and still half swing arms when walking! Stands out a mile.
Still think there is more to this than is being let on by the powers that be.its a good chance for the boffins to use there new toys to bring it down.

 

[freddo]

Probably being flown by Theresa, to create a distraction.

 

[FatAlan]

Probably being flown by Theresa, to create a distraction.

No she wouldn’t do it but she would get my MP Jeremy the spineless *unt to do it.

 

[Squid]

Probably being flown by Theresa, to create a distraction.

Is that the first "blame it on Brexit" post regarding this issue?

 

[Deleted member 105166]

There's a few things wrong with this whole situation. I'm no drone expert, however don't understand:

• from the comfort of a UK or US air base, the military can take out an individual on a different continent using an unmanned aircraft, yet are unable to catch either the drone or the persons operating little more than a toy, within a few square miles.

• Ofcom are able to track and confiscate equipment in cases of unauthorised use of RF spectrum (for example, PMSE users operating on TV channels no longer available for PMSE use). I would have thought Ofcom's expertise would have been called upon quite early on in the operation, however haven't read so much as a single article even mentioning their involvement (if any).

• I can understand the police helicopters not wanting to get too close to the drone, in case it was loaded, however an Apache helicopter could have been quickly deployed to destroy it in mid air.

• Even more basic, why could a larger drone not have been sent up to chase and either net it or simply crash into it, sending both to the ground?

• It is reported that the drone kept disappearing and reappearing, why were Police drones not locked on to follow it? It must have been landed and re-fueled several times, unless it has some awesome batteries inside! Yet no one knows where it disappeared to, or reappeared from...

 

[Wilko]

Hi Tony - agree, they don't seem to have put the A team on it.

 

[FatAlan]

I think this situation reveals exactly how impotent the authorities are. Ofcom are a regulatory authority and will in no way have the capability of dealing with a fast time incident on an authorised RF presumably set aside for all drone users.
Some how I can’t see an Apache Helicopter being allowed to unleash high calibre machine guns over Gatwick airport to try and hit a tiny and agile drone. More likely to hit poor Mrs Miggins of Crawley sipping her cup of tea in her living room whilst perusing the latest offerings of electriciansforums.co.uk

 

[DPG]

You've got to remember that they won't release all the details of this while it is still on-going. There will be far more activity and agencies involved than you think.

 

[FatAlan]

You've got to remember that they won't release all the details of this while it is still on-going. There will be far more activity and agencies involved than you think.

You’d like to think so but what I’ve experienced with Surrey and Sussex Police I think their senior management will be more worried about their image and next press release rather that solving the actual problem.

 

[Squid]

There's a few things wrong with this whole situation. I'm no drone expert, however don't understand:

• from the comfort of a UK or US air base, the military can take out an individual on a different continent using an unmanned aircraft, yet are unable to catch either the drone or the persons operating little more than a toy, within a few square miles.

• Ofcom are able to track and confiscate equipment in cases of unauthorised use of RF spectrum (for example, PMSE users operating on TV channels no longer available for PMSE use). I would have thought Ofcom's expertise would have been called upon quite early on in the operation, however haven't read so much as a single article even mentioning their involvement (if any).

• I can understand the police helicopters not wanting to get too close to the drone, in case it was loaded, however an Apache helicopter could have been quickly deployed to destroy it in mid air.

• Even more basic, why could a larger drone not have been sent up to chase and either net it or simply crash into it, sending both to the ground?

• It is reported that the drone kept disappearing and reappearing, why were Police drones not locked on to follow it? It must have been landed and re-fueled several times, unless it has some awesome batteries inside! Yet no one knows where it disappeared to, or reappeared from...

The owner of the drone over Gatwick has bypassed all the security measures, GPS positioning, geo fencing, fly to home etc etc etc.......

It might be a bit like the powers to be "allowing" terrorist attacks the using that as an excuse to clamp down on civil liberties like installing more CCTV cameras, the terrorists don't give a ---- as they are going to meet the gay virgins to be bummed for eternity but the rest of us are under more "control".

 

[Deleted member 105166]

Some how I can’t see an Apache Helicopter being allowed to unleash high calibre machine guns over Gatwick airport to try and hit a tiny and agile drone.

Alan, I wasn't suggesting that - my point was, whilst appreciating a Police helicopter may not want to get too close in case the drone contained explosives, an Apache is designed to operate in such conditions and could simply crash the drone out of airspace. No James Bond stuff necessary!

 

[Squid]

Alan, it should be fine they just need the direction of aim to be towards Crawley........

Might improve the place........

 

[SparkyAndGeorge]

The police refused to shoot it down they were worried about stray bullets