Additional sockets & lighting.

[Josh95]

If 4 sockets have been added to an existing ring & 2 lights have been added to an existing lighting circuit.
What certificate should be issued ?

 

[Madocks]

Where are the circuits? bathroom? kitchen? bedroom?

 

[Toneyz]

Have the sockets been added to the ring or as four individual spurs off?

 

[Josh95]

Kitchen ring.

Downstairs lighting.​

 

[Josh95]

Added to the ring

 

[Jim90]

As above, special locations and any cable been installed?

 

[Madocks]

Where do you live also? In Wales minor works to kitchen is notifiable work

 

[Ian1981]

As long as there aren’t any new circuits installed from the consumer unit then a minor works certificate for each circuit altered should suffice.

 

[westward10]

Minor Works Cert.

 

[Octopus]

Minor works x 2

Or

1 x eic

 

[Josh95]

Cheers

 

[Josh95]

Why would a special location make any difference ?

 

[Rosco]

Special location would mean it being notifiable work to LABC either direct or through CPS

 

[HandySparks]

Why would a special location make any difference ?

Special location would mean it being notifiable work to LABC either direct or through CPS

But it has no effect on the certification required. 2 minor works or 1 EIC, as Murdoch says.

 

[Rosco]

But it has no effect on the certification required. 2 minor works or 1 EIC, as Murdoch says.

Agreed I meant in addition to the cert/s

 

[Pete999]

If 4 sockets have been added to an existing ring & 2 lights have been added to an existing lighting circuit.
What certificate should be issued ?

Are you an Electrician? yes, then you should know the answer, A MNWC is issued for an alteration to an existing circuit, which sound's as though that's the one you require.

 

[Pete999]

Minor works x 2

Or

1 x eic

Why not use 1 of these
http://www.wmjoiner.co.uk/download/4 - Minor Works Certificate 17th Edition BS7671.pdf
Can't see why you would issue an EIC for alterations of an existing circuit.
Appendix G OSG
G2.1 The EIC is intended to be issued where more significant work is undertaken:
A complete rewire
Rewire of an existing installation
Replacement of a CU
Addition of a new circuit from the DB or CU

G2.2
MEIWC
A MEIWC is intended to be issued for an addition or alteration to an existing circuit
Adding a lighting point
Adding sockets to an existing RFC
Rerouting an existing circuit
Replacing an existing shower
Replacing circuit breakers with RCBOs where there is a difference of over current type.e,g, replacing type C for type B.

 

[Midwest]

Why not use 1 of these
http://www.wmjoiner.co.uk/download/4 - Minor Works Certificate 17th Edition BS7671.pdf
Can't see why you would issue an EIC for alterations of an existing circuit.
Appendix G OSG
G2.1 The EIC is intended to be issued where more significant work is undertaken:
A complete rewire
Rewire of an existing installation
Replacement of a CU
Addition of a new circuit from the DB or CU

G2.2
MEIWC
A MEIWC is intended to be issued for an addition or alteration to an existing circuit
Adding a lighting point
Adding sockets to an existing RFC
Rerouting an existing circuit
Replacing an existing shower
Replacing circuit breakers with RCBOs where there is a difference of over current type.e,g, replacing type C for type B.

That's 'cos those pesky schemes, have cotton on to the fact, that when using their on-line certification, if you've modified more than circuit, you'll need to complete more than one of their MEIWC (each cert' has only space for one circuit).

So the cost conscious amongst us, will then use an EIC, completing details for the necessary circuits, and adding 'Not Worked On' for the remainder.

Clever them schemes

Mind you, if was just two circuits or possibly 3, I'd submit 3 separate on-line MEIWC's and too hell with the cost.

 

[Pete999]

That's 'cos those pesky schemes, have cotton on to the fact, that when using their on-line certification, if you've modified more than circuit, you'll need to complete more than one of their MEIWC (each cert' has only space for one circuit).

So the cost conscious amongst us, will then use an EIC, completing details for the necessary circuits, and adding 'Not Worked On' for the remainder.

Clever them schemes

Mind you, if was just two circuits or possibly 3, I'd submit 3 separate on-line MEIWC's and too hell with the cost.

You can get MEIWC for up to 3 circuits

 

[Midwest]

You can get MEIWC for up to 3 circuits

Yep I know Pete, but the (Certsure & others I suspect) on-line MEIWC has only detail for one circuit.

 

[Pete999]

Yep I know Pete, but the (Certsure & others I suspect) on-line MEIWC has only detail for one circuit.

So don't do it on line.

 

[Rosco]

Yep I know Pete, but the (Certsure & others I suspect) on-line MEIWC has only detail for one circuit.

Tyesoft easy cert is the same only one circuit

 

[Midwest]

So don't do it on line.

That kinda messes up all the admin, and icloud storage

 

[Pete999]

Tyesoft easy cert is the same only one circuit

About time they got their self in gear.

 

[Octopus]

Why not use 1 of these
http://www.wmjoiner.co.uk/download/4 - Minor Works Certificate 17th Edition BS7671.pdf
Can't see why you would issue an EIC for alterations of an existing circuit.
Appendix G OSG
G2.1 The EIC is intended to be issued where more significant work is undertaken:
A complete rewire
Rewire of an existing installation
Replacement of a CU
Addition of a new circuit from the DB or CU

G2.2
MEIWC
A MEIWC is intended to be issued for an addition or alteration to an existing circuit
Adding a lighting point
Adding sockets to an existing RFC
Rerouting an existing circuit
Replacing an existing shower
Replacing circuit breakers with RCBOs where there is a difference of over current type.e,g, replacing type C for type B.

I know the difference fyi

I'm on a job at the moment where I'm making changes to 8 circuits.... I'm not doing 8 minor works

 

[Pete999]

I know the difference fyi

I'm on a job at the moment where I'm making changes to 8 circuits.... I'm not doing 8 minor works

Your choice.

 

[Octopus]

Your choice.

hit, nail and head spring to mind!

 

[123]

Tyesoft easy cert is the same only one circuit

Not anymore, they have now added a multiple minor works for up 5 circuits

 

[Rosco]

Not anymore, they have now added a multiple minor works for up 5 circuits

That’s good is there a software update or does it update automatically

 

[123]

That’s good is there a software update or does it update automatically

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