4 storey terraced house rewire

[keithbr13]

Hi every one, I am just in the process of quoting for complete rewire on 4 storey terraced house and would appreciate some advice, would you put each floors skts and lighting on separate circuits ? or maybe combine the two upper floors which are just bedrooms. The basement is to be the kitchen and also location for consumer unit is it good practice to install emergency lighting so if there is a circuit failure it is is safe to find your way to the CU ?

 

[wildgoose]

Nice to see that this discussion is working it's way around to Radial​ power circuits - thank goodness!! Is it only us Brits that are obsessed with RFC's?

Stick with radials wherever possible - simpler, quicker, easier to test, easier to fix and often cheaper to install!

 

[telectrix]

yeah. i fail to see the point of installing a 32A RFC for a couple of tellys and a digital alarm clock.

 

[imago]

I think I'd be recommending two boards with RCBOs to the customer. That would give the most flexibility for future changes, easiest installation, and the lowest nuisance in the event of anything tripping. I'd definately go for radials on a job like this too, and discuss neutrals to light switches with them because you wouldn't want to be trying to alter it on four floors at a later date.

All of which depends on the budget available of course.

 

[telectrix]

if money's tight , i've got a couple of wylex CUs complete with 3036 nail holders going cheap to a good home.

 

[sparks1973]

the issue isnt circuit / rcd division , but the work involved in cabling all circuits to one point that can be 4 floors away.
if this was a commercial install , say a 4 floor office , would you run all circuits back to the mains room ? of course not , db on each floor.
the design theory is the just the same.

eh?....just get em up in one corner of the house....get some rods....tie em all on and get some one at the top of the house to pull em up.....break of the ones thats going to floors 1 & 2 ....whats hard about that.....ho, and dont pull em up individually either as you risk burnin em....

 

[telectrix]

nah, we leave burning cables to mr. wet-head with his blowlamp and hot pipes.

 

[electric will]

for floors 3 and 4, bedrooms, i assume, a 16A radial to each floor for sockets would be more than adequate.

Might as well use 20amp breaker, as long as 2.5mm cable not going through insulation.

 

[DurhamSparky]

I would go for rcbo's. And for work involved I would get the local know it all in and he will be able to complete in 1 day with equiptment bought from eBay.

 

[Guest55]

eh?....just get em up in one corner of the house....get some rods....tie em all on and get some one at the top of the house to pull em up.....break of the ones thats going to floors 1 & 2 ....whats hard about that.....ho, and dont pull em up individually either as you risk burnin em....

you have completely and utterly missed the point of my post.
well done.
and i know how to pull in cables thanks , nice of you to offer some tips though :-/

 

[sparks1973]

you have completely and utterly missed the point of my post.
well done.

oh....you mean volt drop n diversity...doh!!...silly ,me...got it all wrong didn`t i biff...lolffs
so you think volt drop will be an issue here do you..lol...the footprint of a 4 storey terrace will be small..(hence 4 storeys)....so think about it....

 

[Guest55]

oh....you mean volt drop n diversity...doh!!...silly ,me...got it all wrong didn`t i biff...lolffs
so you think volt drop will be an issue here do you..lol...the footprint of a 4 storey terrace will be small..(hence 4 storeys)....so think about it....

stop being a dick.
and you still missed the point of my earlier posts.

 

[Guest55]

and didnt you say in an earlier post this week youre still in the 2nd year of the 2330 ?
well you certainly like to talk the talk for someone who isnt actually qualified yet.

 

[Guitarist]

and didnt you say in an earlier post this week youre still in the 2nd year of the 2330 ?
well you certainly like to talk the talk for someone who isnt actually qualified yet.

Is this true sparks1973?

 

[1shortcircuit]

eh?....just get em up in one corner of the house....get some rods....tie em all on and get some one at the top of the house to pull em up.....break of the ones thats going to floors 1 & 2 ....whats hard about that.....ho, and dont pull em up individually either as you risk burnin em....

you have completely and utterly missed the point of my post.
well done.
and i know how to pull in cables thanks , nice of you to offer some tips though :-/

oh....you mean volt drop n diversity...doh!!...silly ,me...got it all wrong didn`t i biff...lolffs
so you think volt drop will be an issue here do you..lol...the footprint of a 4 storey terrace will be small..(hence 4 storeys)....so think about it....

stop being a dick.
and you still missed the point of my earlier posts.

and didnt you say in an earlier post this week youre still in the 2nd year of the 2330 ?
well you certainly like to talk the talk for someone who isnt actually qualified yet.

Is this true sparks1973?

Oh deary me, must be the weekend lmao

 

[imago]

"We need a bigger forum!" There's blood in the water.

 

[sparks1973]

Is this true sparks1973?

no ..its wrong....i will be on the 3rd year this year.....not that i care anyway....

 

[Johnuk]

stick to the 1 cu, ive done loads od 4 storys and 1 cu is fine

and we all know on rewires that you make the room need for the cable routing

 

[electric will]

Wow this post has got a lot more interesting since I've been out

 

[Guitarist]

no ..its wrong....i will be on the 3rd year this year.....not that i care anyway....

Wow, the way you have been advising people and criticising others, I assumed that you were fully qualified with years of experience.

 

[sparks1973]

Wow, the way you have been advising people and criticising others, I assumed that you were fully qualified with years of experience.

well....thats the nature of the beast....

 

[AP Electrical]

Is Electricians forum twinned with Syria by chance

 

[electric will]

He who says the most normally knows the least
adam verse 8 chapter 3

 

[Guest55]

well....thats the nature of the beast....

nature of the beast ? lol total crap.
youve being giving it the billy-big-boots the moment you joined the forum , making out you've got a life time of exp. in the industry.
nice try blagger.

 

[sedgy34]

nature of the beast ? lol total crap.
youve being giving it the billy-big-boots the moment you joined the forum , making out you've got a life time of exp. in the industry.
nice try blagger.

Sparks 1973 pops up again does he know what he's onabout or not

 

[sedgy34]

I almost forgot the thread!!!

Loghts for each floor and smokes on there own circuit and kitchen ring and probably a 4 mm radial for each bedroom and as Dillb said spread the others over rcds

 

[Guitarist]

well....thats the nature of the beast....

At least you have been honest about not being a fully qualified electrician. I respect you for that.

 

[Rockingit]

Actually, Sparks, Biff may have a point here. Obviously we don't know the layout or specs, but 4 floors full of GU10's and you've gobbled your way through a lot of cable and a lot of amps. Haven't got the books to hand, but the VD on 1.5TE can't be great.

 

[sedgy34]

Actually, Sparks, Biff may have a point here. Obviously we don't know the layout or specs, but 4 floors full of GU10's and you've gobbled your way through a lot of cable and a lot of amps. Haven't got the books to hand, but the VD on 1.5TE can't be great.

I have Rockingit I will have a look for you not lol

 

[Guest55]

its 29mV/A/mtr.
;-)

 

[sedgy34]

Lol there's always 1