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And a fire escape lit by a three hour emergency light. I'm even wondering if an automated response fire alarm is warranted?I think all wooden sheds should have sprinkler systems installed just to be on the safe side.
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And a fire escape lit by a three hour emergency light. I'm even wondering if an automated response fire alarm is warranted?I think all wooden sheds should have sprinkler systems installed just to be on the safe side.
I understand entirely your point of view, but I disagree. I do not see any provision for the application of common sense or making a judgement in the regulation. If the reg was open to the installer making a judgement on whether it is required then there would be plenty of cases where it should be installed but wouldn't be. I'ts a blanket requirement.There's the answer, the wiring system will not collapse prematurely as the structure it is attached to will be in a state of collapse already by the time PVC cleats fail.
Also while no mention of the type of building, the intention is to prevent entanglement of emergency response personnel if they enter a building with a collapsed wiring system.
No firefighter is going to enter a shed other than to rescue a person and I can't recall there being a single case of shed based self immolation, so the whole discussion is moot.
Well it's mootier still as, in the infinitesimally small chance that a firefighter does enter and become entangled, who can prove what failed first and where.
This is so nonsensical I'm wondering if it's trolling?
I was in a well known national wholesaler today and they had T&E metal clips (also they had Am3 yellow regs books on a stand still for sale)I better not mention to anyone, that today I used some plastic clips to support twin and earth in a loft on wooden beams.
I understand entirely your point of view, but I disagree. I do not see any provision for the application of common sense or making a judgement in the regulation. If the reg was open to the installer making a judgement on whether it is required then there would be plenty of cases where it should be installed but wouldn't be. I'ts a blanket requirement.
And truth be told I'd probably use fire retardant clips but I'd be cussing like a sailor whilst doing it.I understand entirely your point of view, but I disagree. I do not see any provision for the application of common sense or making a judgement in the regulation. If the reg was open to the installer making a judgement on whether it is required then there would be plenty of cases where it should be installed but wouldn't be. I'ts a blanket requirement.
Do the Regulations actually state the requirements for support methods are for the benefit of the emergency services.There's the answer, the wiring system will not collapse prematurely as the structure it is attached to will be in a state of collapse already by the time PVC cleats fail.
Also while no mention of the type of building, the intention is to prevent entanglement of emergency response personnel if they enter a building with a collapsed wiring system.
No firefighter is going to enter a shed other than to rescue a person and I can't recall there being a single case of shed based self immolation, so the whole discussion is moot.
Well it's mootier still as, in the infinitesimally small chance that a firefighter does enter and become entangled, who can prove what failed first and where.
This is so nonsensical I'm wondering if it's trolling?
It can never be a departure, a departure needs to have a degree of safety not less than the regulations.The regulations simply state that wiring systems shall be constructed to prevent premature collapse in the event of fire, there is no mention of type of installation....shed....domestic....commercial....industrial. Nor does it say common sense can be applied,it's a blanket requirement no matter how daft it might seem. Hence the disagrees to some of the above posts. If you ignore the requirement it's a departure, your call if you want to justify it on your EIC.
No but a big deal was made of the reason prior to the 18th and at my 18th course so I think we all know why this reg was brought in.Do the Regulations actually state the requirements for support methods are for the benefit of the emergency services.
I believe a plasterboard ceiling is deemed adequate support for the wiring in the event of a fire, so plastic clips to joists in a roof space would be acceptable.I better not mention to anyone, that today I used some plastic clips to support twin and earth in a loft on wooden beams.
I believe a plasterboard ceiling is deemed adequate support for the wiring in the event of a fire, so plastic clips to joists in a roof space would be acceptable.
Er…..NoWould the shed not then require a plasterboard ceiling using that criteria?
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