found this today on a pre sort-out inspection:
all appears fine apart from the downstairs sockets not on the RCD side...split load board to the 16th ed
now lets pan down a bit:
yep...its TT...heres some more:
i wasn`t too impressed with the workmanship here either:
went into...
Hi guys,
Just doing an EIC for a recent dis board change, I also installed a 50a (type b 60898) shower circuit for an 11.5KW shower. I am looking through my regs trying to find whether it comes under the 5s disconnection time...? I know 0.4s is for circuits less than 32A and non-distribution...
Hi everyone,
On the drawing it says the system's TN-C-S with declared Ze = 0,008 Ω and prospective fault current declared as 50kA
When I calculate If = Uo / Zs = 230 / 0,716 = 321 A . With this value there's no way to match with 10A curve at fig. 3A6 (appendix 3)
But if I calculate the...
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Tn system disconnection time 0.4 s under 32a , 5s over 32a
So if a circuit isnt protected by rcd, how do you know if the circuit breaker is tripping less than the maximum disconnection times. Does it rely on low max zs values and ze
On the 2391 training course for all of this week and something popped up that I would like to what other people made of it.
So we are talking disconnection times, and the question of RCD's pop up. More to the point, circuits not meeting the required disconnection times. I thought I would use...
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hi guys,
what is the max allowable disconnection time times under fault conditions for kitchen lighting, bedroom socket outlets and also for a shower?
thanks in advnace i appreciate all your help
This might help a few of us suffering the 2391 exam.
Maximum disconnection times for a nominal rms line voltage to earth, U0 of 230V
Firstly for a TN system:
Final circuits not exceeding 32A = 0.4s
Final circuits exceeding 32A = 5s
Distribution circuits = 5s
For a TT system
Final circuits...
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BS 7671 table 41.1 shows that a disconnection time of 0.4 secs for 120<volts to <inc 230 volts, and a disconnection time of 0.2 at 230< to < inc 400v. (TN systems).
My query is with a 10%+/- tolerance which could possibly increase 230 volts to 253 volts hence taking your 230v 0.4s disc...
Hi guys ths is my first time on here and relatively new to electrics. I was asked to find the times of disconnection needed for 5x and 1x. I was wondeering if anyone could give me a push in the right direction by pointing out where i could find such useful info inthe BS 7671 or onsite guide...
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Hi Guys,
Wonder if any of you could try and explain to me if the reason for disconnection times for fuses /proctective devices etc. As on one hand, i was told at college it is to protect the cable from catching fire etc, and then iget the impression the reason for having say 0.4 disconnection...
I've always wondered why BS7671 states that a disconnection time of 0.4s is required for circuits NOT exceeding 32A and for circuits exceeding 32A it is 5s
Surely you would want the higher current to trip quicker?
Can someone clarify this?
Hello all
I no the disconnection times for TN circuits are 0.4s for final ccts with an (in) not exceedind 32A
AND 5 s
for final circuits exceeding 32A
Distrubution ccts
I have just installated some lights within a industrial building in a riser and have tested all came back ok just have...
Hi all,
Just got a query regarding what values to use from the Red Book
32a Ring Main Domestic Circuit. Do I use the 0.4s Disconnection times or the 5s Disconnection times?
regards
Tom
would someone please explain the reasons for having a 0.4 second disconnection time and a 5 second disconnection time, why is there a big difference between the two readings :confused:
Im always every night of every day of every week, on my pc doing my head in QUOTES.
But on this occasion im actually doing an minor works.
One thing that i never have on me at home is my onsite guide or regs book so id like to know if anyone knows any links to various places for info...
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On a TNCS system is the disconnection time .4 for all circuits of 32a and below as specified by 411.3.2.2 Table 41.1. I was sure that fixed appliances were rated at 5s ( lights, immersion heaters and the like). Please correct me me if I am wrong
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