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The report is no longer visible but I could have sworn it showed BS3036 OCPD? So our man has invented... The Rewireable Circuit Breaker.

And what of that other CU or switchfuse above the RCD, that might be a 1-way Wylex from which the fuse cover is lying on the tails? Are we looking at pics of the right installation?

There it is with the details crossed out. I wish I understood any of what you said! I've been in touch with another electrician who may be able to help, hopefully anyway.
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Does anyone know of any good electricians to get in touch with in the North East? Have contacted a few but not sure who's good or not. (Newcastle, Sunderland, Gateshead areas)
 

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There it is with the details crossed out. I wish I understood any of what you said! I've been in touch with another electrician who may be able to help, hopefully anyway.
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Does anyone know of any good electricians to get in touch with in the North East? Have contacted a few but not sure who's good or not. (Newcastle, Sunderland, Gateshead areas)
Thank you for posting it. Hopefully the new electrician will be able to give you some clarity.

If he was only there for 45 minutes, then I fail to see how he could do all the tests that he has given results for, at least to a competent standard, though perhaps he is highly efficient!

There are some fairly basic errors in completing the form, which lead me to believe that what you have paid for is not a useful EICR for any purposes, let alone the one you want it for.

Though in this case perhaps he was accurate when he states that he was operating at approximately 30%!

Given that he claims to be a NICEIC contractor, it may be worth checking that he is actually registered with them, which you can do at this link. It may also give you some local companies, but perhaps others who are more local can advise on good options.

Edit: NICEIC forgot to pay for their web security certificate apparently :rolleyes: However, checking here does seem to suggest they exist and are a large company. You could possibly ask to speak to a manager or request someone else attends if you want to deal with the company.

BTW, you've left their firm name on the footer of the certificate.

Having said all that, some if not all the codes he gives on the certificate may be accurate.

I try when giving codes to make then understandable to those reading the report, as well as giving references to the regulations where they are not being met.

Considering the C2 codes (which are what cause the report to be unsatisfactory)

Items 2,6 - IP rating on the RCD would mean holes in the structure - if live parts were easily accessible that way it would be a C1, but if there was a crack that looked as if it may worsen that could potentially be C2. I can't tell from the pictures, though there appear to be no visible gaping holes. Similarly with the DB IP breach item 6

Item 1 - Gas Bonding (Green/Yellow cable from the Main Feed to the gas pipe) should be present in most cases and if not then a C2 is appropriate. However, the bonding is something not at the gas meter (if it's external) and tests can be done to confirm if it is effectively present or not (not in a 45 minute test though)

Items 5, 4 - If he could not locate the earth rod, then that should have been a FI code (Further information) if he did not have time to investigate. Determining that there was not an earth rod could then be a C1. He has managed to put the details of a main earthing conductor on the form, verify it's continuity and connection, then claimed there isn't one.

It's possible your property is receiving its earth through the buried water pipe, which is not allowed as it could be changed to plastic in the future. Having said that, the fuse head looks newer, so it may be possible to upgrade to a supplier provided earth (if they are willing to provide one). Local to me that is a free service usually.

Item 3 - The main fuse appears to be 100A (at least on the side of the carrier - he has put 60A on the certificate and I doubt he pulled the main fuse to check?), in which case the feed to your consumer unit should be 25mm2. He has claimed they are 10mm2, which is possible, though its much more common to find 16mm2. (hard to tell from a photograph, but a little easier when handling them). If they were 16mm2, then they may still be safe for continued use, depending on the load attached (which is not huge in your case). A competent person would be able to make that judgement and decide whether they need replacing.

In short - the law requires you to have the installation inspected by a competent person (the definition can get wooly).

Individual mistakes can creep into a certificate (I've certainly made some) - but the number on this certificate and the way that it is completed does not give me confidence that this was a person competent in testing the installation so that you can prove you comply with the legal requirements.
 
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