Non Registered Spark wiring NewBuild

[LED Lighting]

Hi all
Went to a Newly Built Granny-Flat last week on behalf of MK's Switch Exchange Program
Opened the CU to find

• spaghetti Junction,
• No Labels,
• Tails half out of Main Switch,
• 16mm SWA on a run of 50m
• SWA Armor not earthed
• PME brought over from main house
• 50A MCB and RCD protecting SWA
• 3 x 8.5kW Showers in Granny Flat - (Don't know why 3)
• No Bonding anywhere

Certificates:

• No Property Name
• Customer was the building company
• Ze results mixed with Zs results
• Non-Body Certs
• No Signature on bottom of Certs

Gave the Electrician a call - details found in designer section only - asked for his registration number - reply "C&G 2382 and C&G 2391 I think!"

Asked for NAPIT, NICEIC, etc - reply what are they!

He recalls wiring the house - he didn't know he had to be registered


Called LABC - their reply:

• No Building Control Certification
• No Building Control Notice for Electrics
• No Building Control Notice for Gas
• No Building Control Notice for Insulation
• No Building Control Notice for Windows
• No Building Control Notice for ANYTHING!
• Only thing they could find was Planning Permission which the customer applied for

Customer spent £85,000 for this build

Electrician is from Manchester Area - Worked down in Pembrokeshire, Wales on this one job
I don't know if I can post the name of the construction company or Electrician - MODs advise please

 

[Plonker 3]

This thread is so full of cattle excrement its unbelieveable

You were changing the main switch, you had no idea why the original contractor didn't do it. Then you are working for MK. How do MK know his main switch need changing. Also while you were there you have spent a good amount of time examining the installation even though your job should have taken about 10 minutes?

 

[Plonker 3]

Are all electrical contractors from Pembrokshire full of it?

I remember your identical twin brother Nicholas Owen also being from that neck of the woods.

 

[Engineer54]

A Cabin used for Family members when they visit
Single Floor
Wooden Structure
4 Bedrooms
1 Kitchen
2 On-suites
1 Main Bathroom

And that's what YOU call a Granny flat, a 4 bedroomed structure!! Sounds bigger than most typical houses to me... lol!!

 

[LED Lighting]

This thread is so full of cattle excrement its unbelieveable

You were changing the main switch, you had no idea why the original contractor didn't do it. Then you are working for MK. How do MK know his main switch need changing. Also while you were there you have spent a good amount of time examining the installation even though your job should have taken about 10 minutes?

MK had a recall on several Main Switches - Main Contractor stated he could not attend so MK Passed it onto myself!

Look i don't need to explain myself to you - yes I should of taken a picture and maybe you would have seen.

I have a very good reputation in this end of the woods - Working for several very large names including the ones mentioned in this thread and many others.


I only posted this as a good conversation - yes I should of said more in the OP

Lets put this thread to lay because at the moment Dillb you are only obsessed in having a bitch like always!

END OF!

 

[telectrix]

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It was very similar condition to this one just bigger - 21Way MK CU - Split Load


This picture is taken of one I attended for British Gas Home Assistance

looked at that. decided no more beer today. then looked again, decided beer not to blame.

 

[overskilled]

I'm REALLY curious as to why so many think you can't extend an equipotential zone on a PME install.....
Wholesalers must love the ability sell all those extra earthing rods....

 

[guest119]

Well she certainly isn't going to be using them all at the same time, ....now is she!! lol!!

Prob wont use them at all if like my old gran! GBHS

Boydy

 

[telectrix]

bloody showers.. invention of satan. how the hell can you enjoy a single malt and a smoke in a bleeding rainstorm. give me a jacuzzi bath any time.

 

[7029 dave]

Tel, the only way I can achieve bubbles in my bath is to make me own.

 

[Paul P]

I'm REALLY curious as to why so many think you can't extend an equipotential zone on a PME install.....
Wholesalers must love the ability sell all those extra earthing rods....

Its a thing from the 80's along with staking down gas meters and plastic isolation valves on outside taps.

It funny how thing are dangerous and then not. Don't you love regs

 

[Engineer54]

Its a thing from the 80's along with staking down gas meters and plastic isolation valves on outside taps.

It funny how thing are dangerous and then not. Don't you love regs

Nope, it's down to the pure ''Scaremongering'' being perpetuated by the few still out there, that consider the PME artificial earth, as being an earthing system that is ready to kill each and everyone that has it installed!!

These herberts would rather see a TT system with crazy Ra values. There is one such guy on another forum, that has actually disconnected a perfectly sound TN-S connection for a 50 ohm TT system!!! Why because he believes that his TN-S DNO cable may have in part, been converted to TNC-S... lol!! There's nought so strange as folk, as they say!!

 

[spark 68]

MK had a recall on several Main Switches - Main Contractor stated he could not attend so MK Passed it onto myself!

Look i don't need to explain myself to you - yes I should of taken a picture and maybe you would have seen.

I have a very good reputation in this end of the woods - Working for several very large names including the ones mentioned in this thread and many others.


I only posted this as a good conversation - yes I should of said more in the OP

Lets put this thread to lay because at the moment Dillb you are only obsessed in having a bitch like always!

END OF!

Ha ha, I remember a very similar thread about a fire in a recently installed CU, and the same thing was said then, "Lets put this thread to lay ",
lol
Nicholas is that you ? lol

 

[Plonker 3]

Ha ha, I remember a very similar thread about a fire in a recently installed CU, and the same thing was said then, "Lets put this thread to lay ",
lol
Nicholas is that you ? lol

That's not the only similarity to Nic's style of writing. Plenty in this thread and a couple if others he has started.

 

[spark 68]

Yep,
and here is the very thread in question lol

http://www.electriciansforums.co.uk...um/60390-had-interesting-call-last-night.html

PMSL

 

[Anthony King]

Yep,
and here is the very thread in question lol

http://www.electriciansforums.co.uk...um/60390-had-interesting-call-last-night.html

PMSL

Lol who changed his name to spazz?

 

[spark 68]

Lol who changed his name to spazz?

I have no idea lol

Another thing not apparent from that old thread, was that Trev was winding him up about the local officials at his (Nicholas's) Fire HQ, he had looked up their names on the net lol, we knew, but watched him bite.

A couple of posts appear to be missing/moderated.

It was funny at the time to watch him try and squirm his way out.

I actually quite liked Nicholas, as he meant well, just he was a bit Walter Mitty, and he had a bit of a thing for RCDs and Part P/ESC.

 

[Knobhead]

I’ve read some boll0x on here. This takes the prize!

 

[Octopus]

Are all electrical contractors from Pembrokshire full of it?

I remember your identical twin brother Nicholas Owen also being from that neck of the woods.

This is on the home page of his website "Our Basingstoke Office covers the East of England including London and Leeds." I always thought that Leeds was up north!

 

[telectrix]

leeds was up north until recently, when glenn hammered in a huge earth rod, so huge that it altered the centre of gravity of the earth and now leeds is sub-tropical. all this because he wanted to wear his new burmuda shorts for work.

 

[Plonker 3]

This is on the home page of his website "Our Basingstoke Office covers the East of England including London and Leeds." I always thought that Leeds was up north!

He has is location as Wales and also the address on the website is Pembrokeshire.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

just reading through this little lot...:

the electrician doesn`t have to be in a scam membership...

its the property owner`s responsibility to ensure the LABC have been notified....

 

[GLENNSPARK]

and just reading the O/P....i got a distinct whiff of `you cant extend a PME`....

another slice of twaddle

 

[telectrix]

morning, glenn. :waving:

 

[GLENNSPARK]

ayup Tel....

off out in a bit....kitchen first fix so will be able to report back soon on how `kev` has put a load of faults in for me to sort....

that will be in the new year when it comes to test + note...

 

[Knobhead]

Morning Glenn, where's my data stick?

 

[GMES]

ayup Tel....

off out in a bit....kitchen first fix so will be able to report back soon on how `kev` has put a load of faults in for me to sort....

that will be in the new year when it comes to test + note...

Grabbing on god's day what next :tongue3:

 

[Brightspark2]

Morning Glenn, where's my data stick?

He sent it to me....


Some interesting data on there but I'm not into the personal pictures at all!...

 

[VoltzElectrical]

Like I said he is a retired electrician - Even he was discussed with the quality of work
He agreed to Isolation


Napit, MK and LABC also Advised Isolation until it had been fully tested by a qualified electrician

​disgusted?

 

[DPG]

​disgusted?

Careful, you'll be receiving PMs !! Daz

 

[GLENNSPARK]

i see the grammar police are still in here....