Not too happy with this work...

[davesparks]

Really?!?!
I'm not surprised that the domestic side of the business is, not wanting to get banned, not where it should be.

Yes, although neatly clipped would be better, the whole point of having a service gap below and behind kitchen units is to be able to install services there.

 

[Silly Sausage]

Hmmm, maybe, but there are plenty of units that fit flush.
It just looks incredibly amateurish and lazy to me, and you can't go drilling holes in the middle of people's floors. What happens if they want to re-work/purpose the kitchen space?

 

[westward10]

The cable above the skirting is my main issue- there are multiple sockets like that. My other issue is the compete lack of care on the wall installing the RCBO - the wall was perfect beforehand and now it's got a huge hole- it's the first thing visible in our hallway.

If I am reading this correctly this is not just a kitchen issue.

 

[Rpa07]

The guy is fitting Hager as standard, he’s showing some class!
Kitty, There obviously needs to be communication between you and the electrician and get his take on these snagging issues and don’t let the discourse be fuelled by this thread.
Talk and arrange a solution.
Holes can be filled and I certainly agree regarding the kitchen wiring an the service void. Better to see them so the kitchen fitter can’t spear them.

 

[davesparks]

Hmmm, maybe, but there are plenty of units that fit flush.
It just looks incredibly amateurish and lazy to me, and you can't go drilling holes in the middle of people's floors. What happens if they want to re-work/purpose the kitchen space?

No you can't go drilling holes in the middle of the floor, but these holes are next to the skirting which is generally nowhere near the middle of the floor.

If they want to rework the space they have the electrical installation altered to suit, which is part of the reason this is fairly common as kitchens are generally shorter lived than the rest of the installation.

 

[AJshep]

I usually discuss with the customers about making good in my quotes. I personally wouldnt want to put my name to that, It looks a bit slap dash but I suppose theres nothing technically wrong with whats shown.
If you were keeping the wallpaper above the fuseboard I would have probably tried to cut the wallpaper and flap it back on itself, I would have also popped a bit of capping in the wall or at least pulled the twists out of the cable before its buried. I also use a 16mm/20mm masonary drill bit to drill behind skirting boards but then again I think I would have charged a bit more.
Looks more like a domestic installer has carried out the work rather than electrician, but thats me being judgemental and miserable because I have man flu.

 

[PEG]

This post just goes to show,how the initially "accused" looks less and less guilty of anything,the more details are disclosed.

The "terrible holes" may well be for the agreed future "room at a time" access,and i have seen considerably worse cabling,behind cabinets....seen some yesterday on a large 70's palace,which is largely coming down - atrocious,but no issues in the last 40 years,apparently.

 

[streamer]

am I overreacting

Yes

 

[Markyd]

I usually discuss with the customers about making good in my quotes. I personally wouldnt want to put my name to that, It looks a bit slap dash but I suppose theres nothing technically wrong with whats shown.
If you were keeping the wallpaper above the fuseboard I would have probably tried to cut the wallpaper and flap it back on itself, I would have also popped a bit of capping in the wall or at least pulled the twists out of the cable before its buried. I also use a 16mm/20mm masonary drill bit to drill behind skirting boards but then again I think I would have charged a bit more.
Looks more like a domestic installer has carried out the work rather than electrician, but thats me being judgemental and miserable because I have man flu.

Excuse me........i am a Domestic installer and would not leave work looking like that.....and a couple of months ago spent 2 days rectifying what you call an ELECTRICIANS work who was time served and all that....ran 8 new double sockets using singles......not a grommet to be seen in metal boxes....connected 5 new metal light fittings without connecting c.p.c......and fitted a small chandelier in the bathroom i.p. rating whats that?........so his work was a total disgrace......when asked about a cert for additional sockets he didnt have a clue what the client was on about....maybe he should stick to working in grubby factories....So much for what you call an Electrician eh.......Shoddy work,works both ways

 

[Kitty0307]

I certainly don't feel I'm over reacting about the hole in the wall above the consumer unit. We did NOT plan to get this wall replastered and wanted to keep the original wallpaper. It looks a state and regardless of whether access will be needed there for future work, I think much more care could have been taken when fitting the new unit. I'm actually shocked that anybody would say I'm overreacting...
I didn't say he could drill holes in the floor...or run cable over the skirtings. It's still a shoddy job in my opinion. If we decide to go with somebody else for the remainder of the rewire will he still issue us with certification for the work he has done?

As far as leaving service gap behind kitchen units....our plan was to fit freestanding custom made wooden units and now it's looking like this won't be a option or we will have to have spaces cut into them for cables and pipes. We did discuss the types of units we were planning on fitting with the electrician (well, I did).

Just fed up of the whole thing- pretty much dealing wirh this myself as my partner just buries his head and moans about how much it will cost/tells me off if things go wrong.

 

[Kitty0307]

I certainly don't feel I'm over reacting about the hole in the wall above the consumer unit. We did NOT plan to get this wall replastered and wanted to keep the original wallpaper. It looks a state and regardless of whether access will be needed there for future work, I think much more care could have been taken when fitting the new unit. I'm actually shocked that anybody would say I'm overreacting...
I didn't say he could drill holes in the floor...or run cable over the skirtings. It's still a shoddy job in my opinion. If we decide to go with somebody else for the remainder of the rewire will he still issue us with certification for the work he has done?

As far as leaving service gap behind kitchen units....our plan was to fit freestanding custom made wooden units and now it's looking like this won't be a option or we will have to have spaces cut into them for cables and pipes. We did discuss the types of units we were planning on fitting with the electrician (well, I did).

Just fed up of the whole thing- pretty much dealing wirh this myself as my partner just buries his head and moans about how much it will cost/tells me off if things go wrong.

 

[Cid]

The only thing wrong I can see is the cables over the skirting. However you have pipes and skirting on the way. Hiding the cables would require more destruction.

Now re wiring is usually done before major refurbishment or redecorations. You can't expect electricians to plaster the room and redecorate for you. The cost would be much higher.

 

[Midwest]

I'd like to think I would of done a better job, as do most members on this thread appear to think.

However, as this seems a work in progress, I don't think any of us can criticise this installer, until the job is finished.

As said the OP needs to discuss this with her installer, and not let us pick holes (excuse the pun) in the work. E.g. the hole above the CU, I have carried some installs, where the replacement of CU's revealed the existing install of 50 years ago, where the previous electrician hacked out the wall, and filled it with 4" deep plaster.

I always made good to sub finish, with final finish to be completed by others, and made that clear in T&C's, unless my client wanted a quote to decorative finish.

Lastly, when I've done work in my own house, my wife often complains about the holes I have to make to route cables. How she expects me to get cables to accessories, without doing so, I ain't the foggiest. Always been the same though. No offence OP

Have you anymore pics, that highlight your concerns?​

 

[streamer]

5. The work needs notifying to the building authorities. If he has taken on the work (and no building inspector has visited) then we must assume that he is 'Part P registered' and able to sign off his own work. You should be receiving an email (or letter) from his governing body at some point saying that the work has been notified.

Part P does not apply in Scotland, there is no need to inform the local building authorities.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

The first two replies to the OP are a considerable overreaction. The work is not appalling, just rather untidy. Members should think carefully before scaring the pants off people. There seems to be a trend with some members to simply condemn everything without knowing the full circumstances of the install. It would have been a simple matter to make up a neat ply boxing to enclose wiring to the DB if the damage to the wall was necessary to pull in wiring Other than not being well finished I cant see a great deal wrong with it, as long as certification is issued.

 

[streamer]

Kitty, you joined this forum a few months ago to ask for advice before you started this job. Two members local to you offered to have a look for you. You didn't give me the courtesy of a reply, I'm not sure about the other chap but I know he didn't do the work.
At worst the work is untidy but probably sound enough, all the issues you've mentioned are things you should address with the person who carried out the work.
For my English cousins on the forum, there is no competent persons scheme or domestic installers in Scotland. You are either an Electrician or not, there is no middle ground. Also, we have different building regulations so there is no part P here. We do share the same electrical regulations though!

 

[westward10]

He needs to rectify the hole in the ceiling as he has compromised the fire protection.

 

[Midwest]

He needs to rectify the hole in the ceiling as he has compromised the fire protection.

Whose saying he won't eventually.

 

[westward10]

Whose saying he won't eventually.

I agree just pointing out that it should not be omitted from his works.

 

[Conor McConville]

There’s no way he should be paid full agreed amount, I would pay another trusted electrician in the area to come in with you and go round the house and identify all issues with a ‘competent’ tradesman. Let him try to explain himself then. I’d rather give the extra few pound to someone else rather than pay him. Unacceptable!