Discuss Removing an outlet from a switch (light connected) with unfamiliar wiring. in the UK Electrical Forum area at ElectriciansForums.net

Amped1111

DIY
Reaction score
0
Hello,

I'm knew to electrical work but I feel comfortable doing some beginner, easy work. There's actually 2 bathrooms in our house that have the outlets and lights controlled by one switch. I can only speak to one bathroom setup so far.

Bathroom1: One switch that controls the light and one outlet. The switch has only 1 black and 1 white wire attached to it (12 gauge). The outlet has 1 black, 1 white, and 1 ground (14 gauge). The outlet is ungrounded and so far this is the only outlet with a ground wire and 14 gauge wires in the whole house. I believe the previous owner added this in when he was doing some remodeling in that bathroom.
Q1: Is it a problem to have the 14 gauge wire on the 20 amp circuit (with a 15 amp duplex receptacle)?
Q2: Is it a problem to attach the ground wire to the ground screw even though there is no ground in the outlet?
Q3: Is it possible to make the outlet so it's always hot and not connected to the switch without tearing apart the wall (I have not looked at the wiring in the light fixture yet)? All the solutions I've read involve more wiring than what I have (multiple hot wires).

House was built in 1958, 20 amp circuit with the rest of the house (from what I've seen) having 12 gauge wire, and only hot and neutral wires in each outlet. All outlets are unground. I've been adding in some GFCI and AFCI outlets where recommended.

Thanks for your responses!
 
Hello,

I'm knew to electrical work but I feel comfortable doing some beginner, easy work. There's actually 2 bathrooms in our house that have the outlets and lights controlled by one switch. I can only speak to one bathroom setup so far.

Bathroom1: One switch that controls the light and one outlet. The switch has only 1 black and 1 white wire attached to it (12 gauge). The outlet has 1 black, 1 white, and 1 ground (14 gauge). The outlet is ungrounded and so far this is the only outlet with a ground wire and 14 gauge wires in the whole house. I believe the previous owner added this in when he was doing some remodeling in that bathroom.
Q1: Is it a problem to have the 14 gauge wire on the 20 amp circuit (with a 15 amp duplex receptacle)?
Q2: Is it a problem to attach the ground wire to the ground screw even though there is no ground in the outlet?
Q3: Is it possible to make the outlet so it's always hot and not connected to the switch without tearing apart the wall (I have not looked at the wiring in the light fixture yet)? All the solutions I've read involve more wiring than what I have (multiple hot wires).

House was built in 1958, 20 amp circuit with the rest of the house (from what I've seen) having 12 gauge wire, and only hot and neutral wires in each outlet. All outlets are unground. I've been adding in some GFCI and AFCI outlets where recommended.

Thanks for your responses!
To start with you said that you have a black, white and ground in the switch so excuse me but I’m confused about you stating that you have no grounds. No it’s not alright to put 14 gage wire on a 20 amp circuit they should be on 15 amp breakers. On your question on making the receptacle hot all the time you can take the wires in the switch loose and you should have at least 3 cables in your switch box with 1 cable being your live cable and you have a cable that goes up to your light and the last cable should be your receptacle which should be a GFCI receptacle. Tie the black wire coming from the receptacle and tie the black wire in with the Constance live wire. Please turn off the power to the bathroom you are working on since you are not an electrician which you probably need to help you with this. You will need a meter or at least a non contact wand which you can purchase at Home Depot or Lowe’s. Be careful and stay safe
 

Reply to Removing an outlet from a switch (light connected) with unfamiliar wiring. in the UK Electrical Forum area at ElectriciansForums.net

Similar Threads

Hi, I installed 6 recessed lights in my living room. I’m now up to the wiring part of the project. There is an outlet in the room that is...
Replies
1
Views
450
Recently moved into a house from the 70s. There's no ceiling light in the living room. Assuming the switch for the room was to one of the outlets...
Replies
1
Views
428
Mobile home outdoor power supply is a pedestal that power to the mobile home plugs in much like an RV. The main power supply into the mobile home...
Replies
6
Views
809
I have an existing but unused 50A disconnect on the side of the house. It had been connected to an AC unit that got replaced. It has just 3...
Replies
4
Views
930
Hello, I live in Costa Rica, which adopted the US electrical code. On a regular basis, during thunderstorms, I have parks coming out of the...
Replies
0
Views
426

OFFICIAL SPONSORS

Electrical Goods - Electrical Tools - Brand Names Electrician Courses Green Electrical Goods PCB Way Electrical Goods - Electrical Tools - Brand Names Pushfit Wire Connectors Electric Underfloor Heating Electrician Courses
These Official Forum Sponsors May Provide Discounts to Regular Forum Members - If you would like to sponsor us then CLICK HERE and post a thread with who you are, and we'll send you some stats etc

Electrical Forum

Welcome to the Electrical Forum at ElectriciansForums.net. The friendliest electrical forum online. General electrical questions and answers can be found in the electrical forum.
This website was designed, optimised and is hosted by Untold Media. Operating under the name Untold Media since 2001.
Back
Top
AdBlock Detected

We get it, advertisements are annoying!

Sure, ad-blocking software does a great job at blocking ads, but it also blocks useful features of our website. For the best site experience please disable your AdBlocker.

I've Disabled AdBlock