SAP 2005 or SAP 2009?

[SolarCity]

I was told on my NICEIC course that we should be using SAP 2005 figures for our calculations but have recently been told that this is nonsense and we should be using SAP 2009. Can anyone let me know what they use?

 

[robbobnbill]

in the Microgeneration Installation Standard: MIS 3002 it states to use SAP 2005

http://www.microgenerationcertification.org/admin/documents/MIS%203002%20Issue%202.0%20Solar%20PV%202010.08.26.pdf

 

[SolarCity]

Thanks fella. That's what I thought.

 

[LightGEN]

Interestingly, on a recent PV course we were told that we should be using SAP2009, however, I agree that the MCS documentation still states SAP2005....no doubt they'll catch up some time!

 

[Echo]

I used the SAP 2005 calculations for our assessment and the NAPIT assessor said that I should be using the SAP 2009 calculations so received a NC! I had to reproduce the paperwork using the SAP 2009 calcs.

 

[SolarCity]

I used the SAP 2005 calculations for our assessment and the NAPIT assessor said that I should be using the SAP 2009 calculations so received a NC! I had to reproduce the paperwork using the SAP 2009 calcs.

NC?! I'll hit the roof if they NC our paperwork because of the MCS indecision/incompetence.

 

[steve Leese]

It states somwhere in all the rubbish that we have to read that you should be using the most upto date docs

 

[Echo]

Yeah I wasn't impressed to be honest he went through the paperwork with a very fine tooth comb!!!! Checked absolutely everything!

 

[TedM]

I think the MCS standards just say that you must have access to the latest versions of everything - not that you must use them.

 

[Ramjam]

Yep, you must use the latest version of SAP 2005. It's in black and white and logical as it may seem that 2009 is newer, the latest MCS standard clearly states SAP 2005

 

[Echo]

We are now using the 2009 calculations, spoke to the head office at NAPIT and they say to use them. They give off marginally better results too so we benefit.

 

[SRE]

MCS told us to use 2005 about 3 weeks ago

 

[funboy57]

Interesting discussion, I have my assessment in two weeks time about three weeks ago I was at a ECA seminar and a guy showing the power-point who was an Elecsa MCS assessor told us you can use 2009, there were a few MCS accredited lads there, well in turned to a bit of a debate. My assessment is with the NICEIC so I emailed them for clarification the reply was you can use either as long as you can show transparency to what the system can generate, so that was about as clear as mud.

 

[funboy57]

Had my assessment today, I was told by the assessor to use SAP 2005 as it states in MIS 3002 page 8, and until they change that we must use SAP 2005, this way everyone is on a level playing field. Which totally conflicts with with the email I had from the NICEIC

 

[billrag]

Did you pass? Got mine in three weeks with niceic so much to do so little time. (2005 it is)

 

[funboy57]

Yea I got through, on PV and Thermal, as has been posted on here they read EVERYTHING. Make sure you have the whole process from phone call till you install, design, commission and get paid, read MIS 3002 make sure you have it all, loads of paperwork but doable as someone said on here.