French wiring book showing Type AC 40a breaker with N and L wired opposite

[Lucien Nunes]

Agreed- a) we are dealing with a different set of regulations and b) whilst the OP may be a very capable chap, the fact that the answer to this question was not abundantly clear when first setting eyes on the illustration, suggests not enough experience to safely tackle a CU installation.

Re upgrading to SP+N, the supply may previously have been a small TP+N service, which was once common on the continent, where the total capacity was adequate but no one phase could carry any large loads so cookers etc all needed to be three-phase too, which made things complicated and limited diversity,

 

[sparksburnout]

Looks like different methods of connecting the supply to the CU utilizing different styles of bus bars,
If you follow the wires the brown wire goes to the brown bus bar and the blue wire to the blue bus bar

Pierre this is your big chance. Go out and sort it for him and then fill the boot up with Vin Rouge.

 

[Pete999]

I can see what you are saying it looks like a pictoral error.

I noted that as well but wasn't sure if the L lable was on the top of

Pierre this is your big chance. Go out and sort it for him and then fill the boot up with Vin Rouge.

If he pays for air fares hotels for Mr and Mrs Pierre hes on

 

[westward10]

Pierre this is your big chance. Go out and sort it for him and then fill the boot up with Vin Rouge.

Bonne idee.

 

[Pete999]

Bonne idee.

Mercy Bucket

 

[pipunch]

b) whilst the OP may be a very capable chap, the fact that the answer to this question was not abundantly clear when first setting eyes on the illustration, suggests not enough experience to safely tackle a CU installation.

So what is the answer ?

 

[pipunch]

Agreed- a) we are dealing with a different set of regulations and b) whilst the OP may be a very capable chap, the fact that the answer to this question was not abundantly clear when first setting eyes on the illustration, suggests not enough experience to safely tackle a CU installation.

Re upgrading to SP+N, the supply may previously have been a small TP+N service, which was once common on the continent, where the total capacity was adequate but no one phase could carry any large loads so cookers etc all needed to be three-phase too, which made things complicated and limited diversity,

Hi yes the farmhouse was supplied by triphase which it needed for milking machines and well pumps and stuff. Had EDF to change the supply over to monophase which is all i need for a small domestic installation (we have 6 large rooms/bathroom including a 37sq m kitchen but we're only having 12 double sockets, 12 lights, a water heater and electric oven/extractor fan. We may in the future put some electric rads in to complement the wood burners but we'll see how we go.

I know it's a different set of regs and appreciate all the help and insight on here but regs aside, i was just after the electrical theory of wiring L+N to N+L.

Seems from the two guys above though that it may be an illustration fault as it's the only picture i've ever seen in a book that looks like this and if it is an illustration fault (and nobody is pulling my leg) then the publishers should probably be notified of it because it's aimed at DIY'ers, written by qualified French professionals and someone who didn't notice the discrepancy could do it wrong. Again, i don't know if this would be dangerous because everybody seems apprehensive to actually say what they think about it for some reason, but it would be good to point it out to the authors at least !

 

[Victor]

Yes i was in the equivalent of B&Q yesterday and they didn't have any single pole trips.

You will not get single pole trips in france, their regs are for duel pole. I lived and worked in France for 12 years so know my way around their regs. If you PM me i will help you out where i can.

Victor

 

[pipunch]

Et voilà. On, working, certified as safe.

How's that for not being able to follow a schematic drawn up by an electrician ?

Hope you wash-ups can find the money to do the next nonsense pointless upgrade to the regs.

Get some.

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[pipunch]

You will not get single pole trips in france, their regs are for duel pole. I lived and worked in France for 12 years so know my way around their regs. If you PM me i will help you out where i can.

Victor

Thanks mate but i've finished the job now. Just have to wire up my balon and then wire that up to the heures creuses switch and we're ready to rock.

 

[Pete999]

Nice wiring, what wash up did that? more to the point what wash up certified it?

 

[Risteard]

Nice wiring, what wash up did that? more to the point what wash up certified it?

Indeed. I can see numerous immediately dangerous and potentially dangerous defects with that crappy job.

 

[westward10]

Nous ne sommes pas dignes, that we are not.

 

[Pete999]

Nous ne sommes pas dignes, that we are not.

English pleas Westy I aint bi-lingual well not French anyway

Nous ne sommes pas dignes, that we are not.

 

[westward10]

Sorry Pete this is the same half wit that posted a thread the other day about earthing a rod with a bigger sized cable then throwing a load of abuse and Lee closed it. I have reported it but it still seems to be running.

 

[Darkwood]

Thread closed: ... here in the UK we have certain regulations and and standards that must be met for a board change and I cannot comment on French regulations but we wouldn't class the work your doing as DIY, given this and the nasty response you gave to a honest reply in another thread, I strongly suggest you get a competent person in, we are not a cliché little club protecting ourself we put safety first and it's clear from your questions and replies that this is not a priority and you think a few youtube vids can skip a 4 year college course ... we are not here to give you a step by step guide how to do the job we are here to help and guide only ...you are clearly not competent in our BS standards but if this is different in France then I think you should enquire on a French forum.
Take this as constructive advice, if you carry on with some of the disrespectful responses to our seasoned members then you will be subject to a ban.

 

[GMES]

Sorry to tread on your last comment @darkwood but I've just given him a weeks Ban.
There is no need for the attitude, so he either comes back with a better one or he can stay away.