Speeding ticket for van

[Davisonp]

I just got a speeding ticket because vans have a different speed limit to cars. I was not aware of this, and nor is any van driver I have spoken to since, so just a heads up.

Vans have a limit of 50mph on country roads not 60mph like cars.

There is a van limit of 60mph on Dual Carrages not 70mph like cars.


There are now speed cameras that combine with ANPR cameras to determine the vehicle type and therefore the specific speed limit for the vehicle, which is what caught me.

 

[westward10]

What sort of van is it.

 

[Davisonp]

What sort of van is it.

Transit Connect

 

[SparkyChick]

Not that I'm a van driver, but I didn't realise that. Nice info, sorry you had to find out the hard way.

 

[ruston]

Sorry to tell you but that has been around for a long time , so has the anpr identification for lorries and vans.
Car derived vans are different though, worth checking.

 

[Ian1981]

I've got a Citroen berlingo and never been done for speeding.
That said it does 0-60 in 1 hour!

 

[Dave OCD]

Yes I knew about the dual carriageway speed limit being lower for a van, hard to stay at 60 though !

 

[Octopus]

Every day is a learning day - 55 mph max from tomorrow

 

[Dave OCD]

I've got a Citroen berlingo and never been done for speeding.
That said it does 0-60 in 1 hour!

There's something wrong with that, my Berlingo will hit 60 in under 30 minutes.

 

[Ian1981]

There's something wrong with that, my Berlingo will hit 60 in under 30 minutes.

Think The Flintstones!
Yaba daba doo!

 

[ruston]

Berligo may come under car derived van check your log book.
Car-derived vans and dual purpose vehicles - GOV.UK - https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/car-derived-vans-and-dual-purpose-vehicles/car-derived-vans-and-dual-purpose-vehicles

 

[rsgaz]

Car derived vans are different though, worth checking.

Correct, although unfortunately this won't apply in the OP's case.

A 'car derived van' only has the same speed limit as cars if it's Maximum Gross Weight is under 2000kg. ALL Transit Connects have a MGW over 2000kg, so even if the dealer registered it on the V5C as a 'car derived van', rather than a 'panel van', he's still up the creek.

If you put your reg in here... (or check your V5C)

Vehicle Check | Check a car’s history on Auto Trader UK - http://www.autotrader.co.uk/vehiclecheck

...you can see what yours is under 'body type'. The stupid part is that small vans like Partner/Berlingo/Combi/Doblo/etc can be registered as either a 'panel van' OR a 'car derived van', it's up to the dealer that sold it originally to fill out the form.

Just remember people, if your MGW is over 2000kg, it's the lower limits no matter what the body type comes up as.

Gaz

 

[ruston]

Yes , a Transit does not derive from a car , but a Berlingo derives from a passsenger type car, and goes under the same name.

 

[Ian1981]

Sorry it's a Citroen berlingo enterprise!
But warp speed it does not!

 

[Davisonp]

Correct, although unfortunately this won't apply in the OP's case.

A 'car derived van' only has the same speed limit as cars if it's Maximum Gross Weight is under 2000kg. ALL Transit Connects have a MGW over 2000kg, so even if the dealer registered it on the V5C as a 'car derived van', rather than a 'panel van', he's still up the creek.

If you put your reg in here... (or check your V5C)

Vehicle Check | Check a car’s history on Auto Trader UK - http://www.autotrader.co.uk/vehiclecheck

...you can see what yours is under 'body type'. The stupid part is that small vans like Partner/Berlingo/Combi/Doblo/etc can be registered as either a 'panel van' OR a 'car derived van', it's up to the dealer that sold it originally to fill out the form.

Just remember people, if your MGW is over 2000kg, it's the lower limits no matter what the body type comes up as.

Gaz

Ironically the largest transit connect is smaller in all dimensions than the ford galaxy and has a smaller gross weight than it as well.

 

[Flanders]

Yes im afraid it true but i don't get this law , if you have a great big range rover you can go the 70 but if your in a little berlingo you can only go 60. !!! I also wondered if those average speed cameras know if you are in a car of a van ??

 

[ruston]

Depends how fast you were going - you might get a speed awareness course, no points.

 

[dansk]

didn't know that, I drive connect everyday. I thought it was 3500t gross that was limited to 50 on A roads etc.

 

[ruston]

Depends how fast you were going - you might get a speed awareness course, no points.

 

[Flanders]

Yes im afraid it true but i don't get this law , if you have a great big range rover you can go the 70 but if your in a little berlingo you can only go 60. !!! I also wondered if those average speed cameras know if you are in a car of a van ??