One way of earthing the pipes.....

[Bob Geldoff1234]

I was changing the consumer unit today and look how the previous person has earthed the main water and gas!

I will give them 10 out 10 for ingenuity

Here's how it looked after i had finished.

On a totally different job i was called out to i came across this fitted by a so called electrician.

The bottom of the rcd is feeding straight out to the RFC.
How he thought that a 63amp RCD on it's own would comply with regulations is beyond me.I had to removed the enclosure and fit a larger one so that i could fit a 32 amp mcb next to the RCD as it needed.
The guy even charged £330 just to fit that unit!

It saddens me that cowboys like this get away with it and tarnish qualified electricians in the process.

 

[MJPD29]

That looks like a really good job. Amazing what some people do. Wonder if they are even electricians or just go under the title.

 

[westward10]

Cable tied to pipework of other services!!!

 

[Wilko]

Another couple of uglies
Out of interest - did contestant number 2 (how that seems to fit ...) take CPC anywhere ?

 

[Bob Geldoff1234]

CPC came out of the bottom of the unit directly into the main earth bar.CPC was a single piece of 1.5mm green/yellow which then connected into the ring cpc's via a 15amp connector seen to the right of the photo.

 

[Pete999]

That looks like a really good job. Amazing what some people do. Wonder if they are even electricians or just go under the title.

Done the wonder course Job done

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Nice tidy job mate and a vast improvement, but your NICEIC inspector will have you by the balls for strapping the bonding wires to the services, they are supposed to be independently supported.
Not a criticism btw...just saying cos I got picked up for it once.

 

[Bob Geldoff1234]

Never been pulled before for tie wrapping the bonding wires and i've done it for numerous inspections before.What harm can it do.They aren't hot or don't move so i cannot see the problem?

 

[westward10]

What reference method would you call it.

 

[Dave OCD]

Not a criticism at all Bob but with the meter tails going in through the rear and not glanded I'd secure then with clips or small cleats.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Never been pulled before for tie wrapping the bonding wires and i've done it for numerous inspections before.What harm can it do.They aren't hot or don't move so i cannot see the problem?

The NIC did issue guidance on this very thing some time ago, I only have the BRB to hand so the reg number may have changed, but 528.3.3 (proximity to non-electrical services) basically states that where an electrical service is in close proximity to another service it shall be arranged that work on that service does not affect the electrical service. I suspect that is the reg that applies.

 

[Bob Geldoff1234]

Not a criticism at all Bob but with the meter tails going in through the rear and not glanded I'd secure then with clips or small cleats.

Cheers mate.The tails are cleated at the back of the board before i fitted it so they aren't going anywhere

Is there a definite regulation about not tie wrapping bonding cables to the pipes anywhere?
I can understand not tie wrapping t&e cables but bonding cables?

 

[kingeri]

Bob, why do you keep throwing the 'dumb' rating around? It's hardly helpful.

 

[Bob Geldoff1234]

Because in general you wouldn't refer to bonding cables via the reference method so the reply is unhelpful.

 

[kingeri]

Right.

 

[Des 56]

Other services should not to be used to support our cables

Besides,what would your reaction be if he started strapping his pipes to any cables that happened to be handy instead of using his own clips for support

 

[Spunkywads26]

I've a question based on OP photo of completed work. The new CU is installed on ply. I recently had my registration visit from my chosen CPS and the guy who came wants the CU I installed to be practically air tight.

I had a garage install with 2 x 2.5mm T&E and 1 x 1.5mm T&E installed down wall in trunking to CU. I channeled the wall out to allow back entry into the CU. The gap between CU and block wall is about 5mm. The inspector told me that it was not good enough and that I should be filling the gap with intumescent foam to prevent air getting into the CU and help fuel a fire.

Now I stood there sort of bemused and wanting to really argue it but thought for a second and asked about IP ratings of CU and if the front of the board should be sealed as the gaps between the MCBs would also be a violation. He was quite adamant about it and was stating that it all changed with amd 3.

Now OP has installed a CU on a flammable material, I wonder what my guy would have to say about that???

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Plumbers view this forum, don't put ideas in their heads.

 

[telectrix]

I've a question based on OP photo of completed work. The new CU is installed on ply. I recently had my registration visit from my chosen CPS and the guy who came wants the CU I installed to be practically air tight.

I had a garage install with 2 x 2.5mm T&E and 1 x 1.5mm T&E installed down wall in trunking to CU. I channeled the wall out to allow back entry into the CU. The gap between CU and block wall is about 5mm. The inspector told me that it was not good enough and that I should be filling the gap with intumescent foam to prevent air getting into the CU and help fuel a fire.

Now I stood there sort of bemused and wanting to really argue it but thought for a second and asked about IP ratings of CU and if the front of the board should be sealed as the gaps between the MCBs would also be a violation. He was quite adamant about it and was stating that it all changed with amd 3.

Now OP has installed a CU on a flammable material, I wonder what my guy would have to say about that???

your cps inspector is a dickwad.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

I've a question based on OP photo of completed work. The new CU is installed on ply. I recently had my registration visit from my chosen CPS and the guy who came wants the CU I installed to be practically air tight.

I had a garage install with 2 x 2.5mm T&E and 1 x 1.5mm T&E installed down wall in trunking to CU. I channeled the wall out to allow back entry into the CU. The gap between CU and block wall is about 5mm. The inspector told me that it was not good enough and that I should be filling the gap with intumescent foam to prevent air getting into the CU and help fuel a fire.

Now I stood there sort of bemused and wanting to really argue it but thought for a second and asked about IP ratings of CU and if the front of the board should be sealed as the gaps between the MCBs would also be a violation. He was quite adamant about it and was stating that it all changed with amd 3.

Now OP has installed a CU on a flammable material, I wonder what my guy would have to say about that???

The reg only states that the CU should be made of non combustible material, nothing else.