Honeywell alarm

[P-Courty]

Been doing a job on a shop and they have gave me a honeywell alarm to put it but the wiring diagram that came with it is an accenta one and doesnt relate at all, there is also one from honeywell but even that doesnt relate. I have wired all the sensors already as i have done many before but the last time i did a control panel, bell box and door contact was a long time ago so don't want to mess it up. Is there any chance anyone has a wiring diagram for it?

cheers guys.

 

[telectrix]

what model is it?

 

[P-Courty]

not sure mate if i was shown a diagram of the control panel layout i would tell you if it was the same

 

[sparky3366]

If I remember correctly, didn't Honeywell buy out ADE?

 

[telectrix]

probably will be ADE.

 

[sparky3366]

Honeywell took over ADE some time ago, so its now a honeywell accenta...

 

[hughesy]

they are all pretty straight forward with regards to zones and if you have a new bell box that usually has a booklet with wiring diagrams for that bb to many differant panels , what bit are you struggling with in particular

 

[Specialist]

Take a look at: www.securitywarehouse.co.uk you should be able to match the panel up from the ADE / Honeywell lists & then download the manual for it. If I remember rightly though the accenta is a Domestic panel not really suited to a shop.

 

[sparky3366]

Take a look at: www.securitywarehouse.co.uk you should be able to match the panel up from the ADE / Honeywell lists & then download the manual for it. If I remember rightly though the accenta is a Domestic panel not really suited to a shop.

It depends on what grade system the insurance want mebbe...

 

[P-Courty]

ive got the instructions and leaflets with it but they are useless they have all kinds of drawings for different panels but nothing that explains the one ive been given

 

[Specialist]

ive got the instructions and leaflets with it but they are useless they have all kinds of drawings for different panels but nothing that explains the one ive been given

Ok 1st things 1st, you need to find out exactly what panel you've got. Can you post up a link to the manual you've got or a picture of it ? to give us something to go on. The Accenta is a Basic 8 Zone closed loop panel with Global Tamper so is very easy to install, the only thing you really need the manual for is the programming section. But before you install the panel in a Shop i'd make sure that the Customer is informed in writing that you accept no responsibility for it.

 

[MikeP]

Look for 4 connections on the control panel, all next to each other, T A D B.
There is a factory fitted link across T & A, this is the bell box tamper circuit.
D & D is the bell/siren output.

T is the tamper return connection.
A is the negative siren connection.
D is the 13volt supply to the siren.
B is a switched negative trigger to the siren.

Connect "T" to the siren tamper, usually marked "TR", (some siren units have 2 options, you want to use the -ve if this is the case).
Connect "A" to -ve hold off, (when in use, there is a negative circuit between "T" & "A"), remove the link at the control panel.
Connect "D" to +ve hold off.
Connect "B" to trig(ger) at the siren.

The "A" & "D" connections supply the siren unit, "T" is a signal connection which should be at 0volts, otherwise a tamper fault will exist. "B" is normally at 13.6 volts, until an alarm condition occurs when it is switched to 0volts, providing a negative for the siren's sounder to work.

I do not wire the strobe seperately, because an alarm that has been "set off" and not reset would be advertised to a potential thief as such by a silent siren unit with a flashing strobe.

good luck
MikeP

 

[alarm man]

your the man...tho we dont know what panel it is yet

 

[MikeP]

It really does not matter what the precise model of the panel is as long as it's of the the older panel's based on the old ADE layout, ie Accenta or Accord or even the ID panels, (Ultimate, Karizma, etc), the siren connections are the same. For that matter, the siren connections on almost every intruder panel conform to the principle of a supply voltage for a siren hold-off, a tamper return, (which is derived from the -ve side of the hold-off), and a trigger, (which is a switched -ve), which provides a connection for the current through the sounder, (in an alarm condition).

It's quite simple,

MikeP

 

[morph]

so if a loss of voltage occurs the alarm is activated ?

 

[MikeP]

Exactly!
the hold-off voltage is applied to the siren's control electronics, (used to be a relay in ancient days), if the voltage is removed or disconnected, (Burglar Bill severs the bell wire), there is an integral ni-cad in the siren unit which provides energy for the sounder to work. Opening the tamper switch on the unit, (removing the cover or levering the unit from the wall), has the same effect.

For a thorough understanding of the siren unit consider developing a wiring diagram from first principles using a change over relay.

MikeP