Need some advice please

[telectrix]

condemn the building and walk away knowing you at least tried

defeatist.

 

[elsparko]

defeatist.

its saturday evening

 

[telectrix]

its saturday evening

OMG. and it's past beer o'clock. brb.

 

[elsparko]

tell the owner that there is ghosts/aliens in the building and it should be sealed off, advise they call derek acora

 

[elsparko]

 

[Wilko]

A bit different from Mary, Mary Quite Contrary ...

 

[telectrix]

Mary Hinge?

 

[elsparko]

Mary Hinge?

not sure on her surname but we do know what she loves

 

[PEG]

Somewhere,on another forum,a "spark" is asking why a board he fitted,in an old property,is letting go on the sockets,when loaded up...

He needs answers,due to a lease being imminent...

 

[Octopus]

For the benefit of Joe Public reading this thread this, its worth remembering:

• Post 2015 an EICR is a document containing 8 plus pages.
• Removing "random" cables from breakers does not constitute any form of formal testing.
• In my experience, socket circuits which are rings are more likely to have issues with poor connections, which make them "appear" to be radials - only proper testing can tell.
• If in doubt about the report, ask the contractor in writing for clarification and / or ask for a 2nd opinion.
• Asking random questions on a internet forum isn't likely to give definitive answers. Only site visits can do this
• Photographs help
• Costs vary tremendously across the UK, but a and EICR costing less than £100 probably isn't worth the paper its written on.

Thanks for reading

 

[westward10]

Where is there a requirement for eight pages.

 

[Octopus]

Where is there a requirement for eight pages.

I suppose that depends on what forms you use... the BYB condenses the information into 4 pages, plus the schedule of inspections so that makes 5 pages .

I use Shineforms, which means a site with 1 board and up to 12 circuits will be 8 pages ...

How many pages do your forms have?

 

[westward10]

Assuming one schedule the minimum is seven.

 

[Octopus]

Assuming one schedule the minimum is seven.

So 4 more than the OP claims to have then.

7 or more than......

 

[wsoppitt]

Sound to me that the issued eicr contains only the 2 pages of installation details and the schedule of test results and omitted the several pages of schedule of inspections thus having a failed outcome without any knowledge of what's contravined regs. Put another way the landlord doesn't want you to see all the remedial codes but cannot change the unsatisfactory result on the installation details pages without it being questioned.
That's my opinion anyway whether its right or wrong.

 

[JK-Electrical]

There is a market for cut-price EICR. There are websites out there devoted only to offering bargain-priced reports. Sadly there are plenty of landlords who see the requirement as only an annoyance to the collection of rent, and one to be expunged at the lowest possible cost.

I've come across EICR not worth the paper they are printed out on. I can only guess that those doing these reports can't realize that they would be personally liable in court.

Landlords seem to like it.

Alas, this is my experience too. I'm aware of "landlord safety certificates" and "landlord electrical certificates" being offered at £40. I'm also aware of a supposed electrician who claims that he can carry-out four EICRs a day. Seriously. I must be slowing-down badly in my old age as it takes me on average around four hours to do an EICR. It just isn't possible to carry-out four EICRs a day on domestic properties unless, of course, much of the testing is being omitted.

One rogue landlord offered me £50 to change a C2 code to a C3 so he could have the report signed-off as satisfactory! I told him where to go. Most landlords that I deal with take their responsibilities seriously and won't compromise the safety of their tenants to save themselves some money. But there are certainly rogues out there who are concerned only with making as much rental income as possible with minimum outlay.

 

[elsparko]

Alas, this is my experience too. I'm aware of "landlord safety certificates" and "landlord electrical certificates" being offered at £40. I'm also aware of a supposed electrician who claims that he can carry-out four EICRs a day. Seriously. I must be slowing-down badly in my old age as it takes me on average around four hours to do an EICR. It just isn't possible to carry-out four EICRs a day on domestic properties unless, of course, much of the testing is being omitted.

One rogue landlord offered me £50 to change a C2 code to a C3 so he could have the report signed-off as satisfactory! I told him where to go. Most landlords that I deal with take their responsibilities seriously and won't compromise the safety of their tenants to save themselves some money. But there are certainly rogues out there who are concerned only with making as much rental income as possible with minimum outlay.

not impossible if you ignore paperwork, i usually write down all my results on rough paper then type it all up at night in the comfort of my own home, hes forgetting that added hours at home typing it all up

 

[1Justin]

I quote a whole day for an EICR, and that's invariably full-on. I'm likely to still be doing the report at 11PM. It's a tough day.