New business start up; a few questions.

[ApacheTech]

Look now fella how many times do you want an answer, we have told you some Companies are charging 50p an item, we have told you large Electrical Contractors have cornered the market, we have told you a small business of 10 or less people will have between 15-30 items which will need testing, we have told you anyone can pat test, we have told you to forget specialising in it as the market is dead and you will have to work 18 hours a day 7 days a week to earn 30k after tax, what else do you want to know?

I've said many times now that I'm not looking to make 30k p/a from this. I'm not really looking to make much money at all from it. I've just asked some simple questions, and although I know how to answer Q5 now in every language since Latin, I still have to find a response that actually answers what I have asked for Q1. "12-30 but don't bother" is not an answer to the question I have asked. A number against each example. Is that really too difficult?

I suggest some primary research is in order, so ... go out to some of these businesses yourself and count them, you could say you were doing a survey, and if you find any correlation between a business type / market / size / blah blah and number of items please let we know.

Let you know? Are you joking? I can't even get a straight answer to the question from anyone on here, other than a miserly "12 - 30 but don't bother".

1. How many items, on average, would you expect a small business to have? I know this varies from business to business, but I'm just after a very bal park figure to use for my pricing strategies. For instance:

• Independent Retailer (Tech)

they don't give a damn or will have a retired sparky doing it for them for years in case they need it.

• Family Run Shop (General)]

they don't give a damn or will have a local sparky doing it for them for years in case they need it. you may get business in case he retires.

• Small Office

they don't give a damn or will have a company doing it for them in case they need it. dropping leaflets or business card may work...

• Used Car Lot/Breakers Yard

they properly don't care.

• Nursery
• Community Centre

those will have some big boys doing testing.

How hard would it be, just to put a number? A ball park figure, whether they care or not. It's not much to ask for. That's all I want. A number against each example. Is that really too difficult?

 

[Plonker 3]

I haven't read the whole thread, got a bit bored after the first few posts. But every business is completly different in what equipment they have that would require PAT, so how the hell do you expect a sparky to know?

 

[ApacheTech]

Ball. Park. Figures.

I'm asking, in a PAT Testing Forum, how many items disparate businesses, on average, would need testing. I ask here, because, being a forum dedicated to PAT Testing, it is frequented by people who may have tested appliances at such businesses and might be able to give me a broad figure, based on past experience. I appreciate that not everyone on this forum will have had this experience a priori; and I also appreciate that the current climate within the PAT Testing "industry", if you can call it that, is not conducive with start up companies. This is, however, a part of my due dilligence.

 

[Guest77]

I've said many times now that I'm not looking to make 30k p/a from this. I'm not really looking to make much money at all from it. I've just asked some simple questions, and although I know how to answer Q5 now in every language since Latin, I still have to find a response that actually answers what I have asked for Q1. "12-30 but don't bother" is not an answer to the question I have asked. A number against each example. Is that really too difficult?




Let you know? Are you joking? I can't even get a straight answer to the question from anyone on here, other than a miserly "12 - 30 but don't bother".



How hard would it be, just to put a number? A ball park figure, whether they care or not. It's not much to ask for. That's all I want. A number against each example. Is that really too difficult?

Gasp this really is getting silly now, you have had the answer several times yet still think you haven't, I'm outta here you will be pleased to hear, if anyone else helps you I will be suprised.

 

[trev]

Ball. Park. Figures.

How many items do I have in my home that could need testing?
How many items do I have in my lock up that could need testing?
How many items does my wood butcher mate Keith have that could need testing?
What about Vic Young Nissan Dealership?
What about McNulty's marine repair yard?
What about the Nissan Plant in Washington?
There's no bloody way of knowing without going direct and asking them!
What is a must have item for one business is something which will gather dust for another so they'll not bother buying it. You may as well guess.

 

[Silly Sausage]

I'm sure someone could formulate an equation to calculate the number of items that any one business would require testing.
Something akin to this maybe... :smilielol5:

The Drake equation is:

where:
N = the number of civilizations in our galaxy with which radio-communication might be possible (i.e. which are on our current past light cone);and
R[SUB]*[/SUB] = the average rate of star formation in our galaxy
f[SUB]p[/SUB] = the fraction of those stars that have planets
n[SUB]e[/SUB] = the average number of planets that can potentially support life per star that has planets
f[SUB]l[/SUB] = the fraction of planets that could support life that actually develop life at some point
f[SUB]i[/SUB] = the fraction of planets with life that actually go on to develop intelligent life (civilizations)
f[SUB]c[/SUB] = the fraction of civilizations that develop a technology that releases detectable signs of their existence into space
L = the length of time for which such civilizations release detectable signals into space[SUP][8][/SUP]

 

[trev]

Voluntarily deleted.

 

[oldAL]

sorry,
I know its an old thread,
but just reading this got me wound up,
as someone said,
OP asked a Q, didnt get the answer he wanted so kept asking the same Q.

Im a small business,
probably got about 70-80 items that need PAT, im a spark BTW,
so that includes everything from my cordless chargers, site radio, 230 stuff, 110 stuff, printer/pc/laptop/tablet etc etc etc in office,
my mate is also a small business, he is a brickie, [does a job writes a receipt in a book]
I dont think he has anything that needs PAT,
so its a stupid Q
btw, what is the difference between a small business and a micro enterprise and all this other gobbliedegook?

 

[ApacheTech]

Thank you for your response. I did mention taking average numbers. If your brickie friend has no need for PAT, then he is automatically written out of any further conversation. You have nearly three times the items quoted previously within this thread. I am aware of the severe variance within numbers of items; hence asking people who may have done hundreds of site visits, for average values.

A micro-enterprise is a company that employs between 0 - 9 members of staff. A small business is a company employing 10 - 250 members of staff. Medium businesses employ between 251 - 1000 members of staff, and a large business employs 1001+ members of staff.

 

[Guest77]

. I'm not really looking to make much money at all from it.

Well you will certainely get your way regarding this comment.