plumbers

[davidcaulfield]

Just doing a CU change and there's no continuity on the rig main which does down stairs upstairs and kitchen all on one circuit. The plumber had recently added underfloor heating to this circuit in a bathroom.

I asked him for his results and he went mental at me saying he didn't need a certificate because it was already there.

All I wanted was his continuity results to see if he cause the fault or it was already there

 

[Engineer54]

Check his terminations at the FCU to see for yourself!!

 

[markc123]

You're gonna have one happy client unless you can find it somewhere. It could be that the earths have popped out somewhere. As E54 has said, check the FCU where the plumber has put his underfloor heating and see if the earths are connected to the terminal.

It'll be either simple or a massive effort.

 

[MDJ]

Just doing a CU change and there's no continuity on the rig main which does down stairs upstairs and kitchen all on one circuit. The plumber had recently added underfloor heating to this circuit in a bathroom.

I asked him for his results and he went mental at me saying he didn't need a certificate because it was already there.

All I wanted was his continuity results to see if he cause the fault or it was already there

Just to let you know I have reported you to the Mods about the discraceful language regarding the name of the thread here :earmuffs:

 

[Octopus]

Welcome to the reality of CU changes!

 

[MDJ]

I can imagine the householders facial expression when you tell him that you need to downrate the circuit to 20 amp lol

 

[Silly Sausage]

Check his terminations at the FCU to see for yourself!!

I can see no mention of an FCU in the OP.
What I can 'see' are 1 or 2 round JBs stuffed under the floorboards just outside the bathroom! :smilielol5:

 

[markc123]

I can imagine the householders facial expression when you tell him that you need to downrate the circuit to 20 amp lol

Then you give the explanation why and the client thinks you don't know what you're talking about and try's to argue.

Grit teeth time shortly follows.

 

[telectrix]

is this plumber qualified to install ufh, and has he notified it?

 

[markc123]

I can see no mention of an FCU in the OP.
What I can 'see' are 1 or 2 round JBs stuffed under the floorboards just outside the bathroom! :smilielol5:

True, and as as many interconnections to make a plate of spaghetti look straight.

 

[Octopus]

Just doing a CU change and there's no continuity on the rig main which does down stairs upstairs and kitchen all on one circuit. The plumber had recently added underfloor heating to this circuit in a bathroom.

I asked him for his results and he went mental at me saying he didn't need a certificate because it was already there.

All I wanted was his continuity results to see if he cause the fault or it was already there

A plumber doing a continuity check on a FRC, don't make me laugh. I doubt he would have done the tests on the actual mat!

 

[davidcaulfield]

He hasn't tested the mat! The continuity is lost on live neutral and cpc!!! I can't put he whole house on a 20amp. It might be a fault from years ago but he should have tested it before adding more load! He hasn't certificated or notified and he said well I can get an electrician to come do a certificate quickly and there won't be a problem lol

 

[MDJ]

2 radials wedged into one breaker probably

 

[Silly Sausage]

He hasn't tested the mat! The continuity is lost on live neutral and cpc!!! I can't put he whole house on a 20amp. It might be a fault from years ago but he should have tested it before adding more load! He hasn't certificated or notified and he said well I can get an electrician to come do a certificate quickly and there won't be a problem lol

Well...

 

[markc123]

He hasn't tested the mat! The continuity is lost on live neutral and cpc!!! I can't put he whole house on a 20amp. It might be a fault from years ago but he should have tested it before adding more load! He hasn't certificated or notified and he said well I can get an electrician to come do a certificate quickly and there won't be a problem lol

Well then you don't have a ring.

Why? It's not a ring, so you're going to have to unless its 4mm which i doubt.

 

[Octopus]

He hasn't tested the mat! The continuity is lost on live neutral and cpc!!! I can't put he whole house on a 20amp. It might be a fault from years ago but he should have tested it before adding more load! He hasn't certificated or notified and he said well I can get an electrician to come do a certificate quickly and there won't be a problem lol

Thats a non spark for you. How long have you been in the business?

 

[telectrix]

either
1. it was never a ring. 2. someone has split it doing DIY. 3. plumber has split it coz. he ain't got a clue if it isn't poo (poetry as well today)

 

[lmdawson]

Just out of curiosity, are you one of these 5 week wander electricians? no offence intended.

 

[telectrix]

if the ring cannot be reinstated, you could convert to 2 x 20A radials.

 

[MDJ]

2 radials on 2 20 amp breakers, but I would definately get to the bottom of it and inspect the Bummers wiring LOL, thats worth a laugh for sure.

 

[telectrix]

and have the wethead there while you pull his "electrical work" to bits.

 

[markc123]

Just doing a CU change and there's no continuity on the rig main which does down stairs upstairs and kitchen all on one circuit. The plumber had recently added underfloor heating to this circuit in a bathroom.

I asked him for his results and he went mental at me saying he didn't need a certificate because it was already there.

All I wanted was his continuity results to see if he cause the fault or it was already there

Looking back through this thread - what is actually the question? Or, are you just telling us what's happened today...which we all do

Let the forum know what the problem was, and how you rectified it

 

[MDJ]

and have the wethead there while you pull his "electrical work" to bits.

and his plumbing too lol

 

[trev]

He hasn't tested the mat! The continuity is lost on live neutral and cpc!!! I can't put he whole house on a 20amp. It might be a fault from years ago but he should have tested it before adding more load! He hasn't certificated or notified and he said well I can get an electrician to come do a certificate quickly and there won't be a problem lol

Onanist. Tell him you connected your ch boiler to the gas supply and watch his reaction.

 

[Silly Sausage]

Onanist. Tell him you connected your ch boiler to the gas supply and watch his reaction.

Ah...Onanism, that reminds me of The League of Gentlemen! :smilielol5:

 

[ian.settle1]

He hasn't tested the mat! The continuity is lost on live neutral and cpc!!! I can't put he whole house on a 20amp. It might be a fault from years ago but he should have tested it before adding more load! He hasn't certificated or notified and he said well I can get an electrician to come do a certificate quickly and there won't be a problem lol

Will be if you tell the LABC before he gets the electrician there:wink5:

 

[Elmer BeFuddled]

Just out of curiosity, are you one of these 5 week wander electricians? no offence intended.

Hard to tell. Make up your own mind:

green and yellow cable

new to this... NICEIC inspection soon

@Trev. Excellent idea. I'll remember that one (fitted own gas).

 

[Andy78]

Just out of curiosity, are you one of these 5 week wander electricians? no offence intended.

Wander straight out of the training centre into peoples' homes ?

 

[davidcaulfield]

I wasn't asking any advice I was just letting people no how **** my day was going. He started ranting about not need a certificate. In the end he rang back and apologised. I later ripped down his lovely new ply wall and found a 2.5mm leg of this ring in connectors taped up floating around inside the wall Lol. A nice maintenance free joint box to reconnect it to the underfloor heating. Rang him to tell him and he wants me to do some work for him this week lol

P.s. am I a 5 week electrician???? Was that meant for me?

 

[varilite]

2 radials wedged into one breaker probably

In that case Join the other end together and voila a ring!

 

[GLENNSPARK]

You're gonna have one happy client unless you can find it somewhere. It could be that the earths have popped out somewhere. As E54 has said, check the FCU where the plumber has put his underfloor heating and see if the earths are connected to the terminal.

It'll be either simple or a massive effort.

and R1..Rn?

 

[GLENNSPARK]

I wasn't asking any advice I was just letting people no how **** my day was going. He started ranting about not need a certificate. In the end he rang back and apologised. I later ripped down his lovely new ply wall and found a 2.5mm leg of this ring in connectors taped up floating around inside the wall Lol. A nice maintenance free joint box to reconnect it to the underfloor heating. Rang him to tell him and he wants me to do some work for him this week lol

P.s. am I a 5 week electrician???? Was that meant for me?

well he were talkin out of his botty hole here as well then as its a minor works....

 

[markc123]

and R1..Rn?

Yeah, i just presumed he meant earth from his OP then he commented after i said that, that he didn't have end-to-end on either L, N or E. So yeah, they could be all out...but more than likely 2 radials smashed together or an abortion of a ring.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Yeah, i just presumed he meant earth from his OP then he commented after i said that, that he didn't have end-to-end on either L, N or E. So yeah, they could be all out...but more than likely 2 radials smashed together or an abortion of a ring.

and if he had end to ends on the live conductors...but not on the CPC....say it was an ECR?

 

[markc123]

and if he had end to ends on the live conductors...but not on the CPC....say it was an ECR?

Well then there's a break in the cable, loose connections or they're possible parallel paths. I hope we're not trying to go back to school here glenn lol.

If there wasn't a CPC, it'd be a C2 all day and night on a ring.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Well then there's a break in the cable, loose connections or they're possible parallel paths. I hope we're not trying to go back to school here glenn lol.

If there wasn't a CPC, it'd be a C2 all day and night on a ring.

and if there was no CPC end to end?

 

[stuartcourt]

and if there was no CPC end to end?

blame the plumber

 

[markc123]

and if there was no CPC end to end?

Figure of 8, its not a ring, open circuit...

Where we heading with this glenn lol

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Figure of 8, its not a ring, open circuit...

Where we heading with this glenn lol

code....
but im just bored thats all...

 

[markc123]

code....
but im just bored thats all...

C2.

Ahh, still got a busted ankle?