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Anyone know the going rate for a self employed electrician in the Sheffield area and the cost of a 10 way mains change?
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glasgospark
self employed or sole trader
if your self employed working for yourself with overheads then £30ph min
if your self employed working for yourself with overheads then £30ph min
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glasgospark
£150 per day ,so that could be SE spark working for a larger electrical contractor or builder ,?
what price would it be per day for a company direct
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Neilhardy66
i worked as a subby direct to a company for a year and i was on £150 but other subbys were on £160
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LlandrilloSpark
£30 ph lol, in the North of England....in this climate, no chance, there will be lots of guys who would do the job for half that rate !
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Still have to set your own rate if your willing to work for 15ph then get a job on the cards
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Don't think £30 ph is that high tbh for a established electrical contractorCan i come work with you???
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ste77
not established my company charge over that, but the guys just starting out by the sounds of it.
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I keep at 30 feel it's not to high not to low. Mechanics grab £40ph big chains 60-70 that bugs me
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sbelec
Established or not this is probably the most complex question there is around, whilst this may not be considered "fair" I change my rate depending on the customer, the location and how busy I am. I was told I was too expensive at £200 to change a 6 fuse box as the client could buy a BG box in B&Q for £50 and it gets into the realms of what you supply (prefer MK or Hagar - if the customer will pay). I went in at £200 as the client had a number of properties and wanted the "maintainence" and "testing" on all properties. He eventually got it fitted for £100.....
I lost a full rewire of 2 bed house priced at £1600 to a company doing it for £1200, 2 guys for 4 days. The company wasn't busy and the boss had 2 guys doing nothing on £500 per week or doing this job and subsidising the wages to the tune of £200 and not £1000.
A lot of people chasing little work and it depends whether you are established enough to accept a single price or if every price goes to quotes, and if you can afford to sit at home doing nothing waiting for the next job. I use three rates, a call out because you can only do 5 a day with travelling, a half day and a full day. So upto 2 hours, between 2 and 4 hours and over 5 hours. But my van costs money whether sat at my house and not advertising or sat outside someone elses's house where I am earning £50.
An immensly complex question that has caused £million pound companies to go down the pan because they got the pricing strategy wrong.
I lost a full rewire of 2 bed house priced at £1600 to a company doing it for £1200, 2 guys for 4 days. The company wasn't busy and the boss had 2 guys doing nothing on £500 per week or doing this job and subsidising the wages to the tune of £200 and not £1000.
A lot of people chasing little work and it depends whether you are established enough to accept a single price or if every price goes to quotes, and if you can afford to sit at home doing nothing waiting for the next job. I use three rates, a call out because you can only do 5 a day with travelling, a half day and a full day. So upto 2 hours, between 2 and 4 hours and over 5 hours. But my van costs money whether sat at my house and not advertising or sat outside someone elses's house where I am earning £50.
An immensly complex question that has caused £million pound companies to go down the pan because they got the pricing strategy wrong.
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wade88
Spot on. You charge accordingly to job type, customer, location and any other variables that come attached with it.
Move with the times and remain flexible.
Here in Surrey £40ph, not a problem, If i went to quote for a Job in Middlesbrough, I wound't charge anything near that, simply wouldn't get the job.
I guess you need to research the professional demographics of your area, and either fit in and be competitive with the rate in the area or convince customers you can offer them something that Joe Bloggs sparky can't which justifies the extra few quid an hour.
Move with the times and remain flexible.
Here in Surrey £40ph, not a problem, If i went to quote for a Job in Middlesbrough, I wound't charge anything near that, simply wouldn't get the job.
I guess you need to research the professional demographics of your area, and either fit in and be competitive with the rate in the area or convince customers you can offer them something that Joe Bloggs sparky can't which justifies the extra few quid an hour.
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wade88
People go wild for free things, even if its total tripe, people can't get enough of getting something for nothing. I am a big believer in promotions. Not just in this industry, but in many others i have watched it be massively successful.
Offer a solid service with no catches, no hidden wording. Then offer something back.
As well as an hourly rate of work, or a day rate, or what ever tariff your put forward to the customer, why not drop it by 5-10%, hook the interest, do a sterling job, then provide incentive for encouraging repeat work. Vouchers, after care, cheap throw away products that to us lot may be total nonsense but to the average customer represent something of kindness and novelty.
I use to offer £25 of M&S vouchers for any recomendation work over £150. Customer gets me work via a friend, i drop round vouchers personally as well as check up on latest install. Every new customer they get me, more vouchers. Costs me £25 of my total job takings, fine, but its another name on the contact list and im 90% i would then remain the only one on theirs.
After all.... who doesn't like M&S grub!!! Seen those chocolate fudge puddings.... blimey. £25 buys you a lot of those!
Offer a solid service with no catches, no hidden wording. Then offer something back.
As well as an hourly rate of work, or a day rate, or what ever tariff your put forward to the customer, why not drop it by 5-10%, hook the interest, do a sterling job, then provide incentive for encouraging repeat work. Vouchers, after care, cheap throw away products that to us lot may be total nonsense but to the average customer represent something of kindness and novelty.
I use to offer £25 of M&S vouchers for any recomendation work over £150. Customer gets me work via a friend, i drop round vouchers personally as well as check up on latest install. Every new customer they get me, more vouchers. Costs me £25 of my total job takings, fine, but its another name on the contact list and im 90% i would then remain the only one on theirs.
After all.... who doesn't like M&S grub!!! Seen those chocolate fudge puddings.... blimey. £25 buys you a lot of those!
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Personally I don't charge an hourly rate, or price jobs per hour. As sblec and Wade say, very job is different and I find the easiest way for me to account for this is a daily rate. I've found that hardly any job takes less than half a day when you take into account running around collecting bits and getting to the job.
If it's something simple where I don't have to collect parts and I'm only there for half an hour I just ask for 'a drink' to cover the diesel. Quite often that will attract other work.
I don't offer a choice of makes for a CU change, I use what I consider to be the best choice. I don't haggle or negotiate, and until I can do that in Sainsbury's for my weekly shop I won't. I'll compete with anyone on quality, but never on price. I'm a tradesman, not a stall holder at a Bazaar.
If it's something simple where I don't have to collect parts and I'm only there for half an hour I just ask for 'a drink' to cover the diesel. Quite often that will attract other work.
I don't offer a choice of makes for a CU change, I use what I consider to be the best choice. I don't haggle or negotiate, and until I can do that in Sainsbury's for my weekly shop I won't. I'll compete with anyone on quality, but never on price. I'm a tradesman, not a stall holder at a Bazaar.
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On similar lines I offer a senior citzen's discount. If/when they ask about it I say I'll pay half the VAT, which they like as it's cheaper but also because they're giving less to the Government. In reality it costs me about 5% of the total when I take into account the reclaimable VAT on materials.
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Andy78
Depends. 2 up 2 down or factory ?
I would do a domestic property up to about 8 circuits for £150. That's definitely a minimum price though. Am helping do a social club of about 80 circuits this week, some wiring dating back 50 years probably. The guy that priced managed to negotiate a day rate for that as no previous results and precious little marked up, so too many variables to give a fixed price.
I would do a domestic property up to about 8 circuits for £150. That's definitely a minimum price though. Am helping do a social club of about 80 circuits this week, some wiring dating back 50 years probably. The guy that priced managed to negotiate a day rate for that as no previous results and precious little marked up, so too many variables to give a fixed price.
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It'd take most of the day to find and disconnect all the loads and neons! A mix of three phase and single, bench supplies, 12v transformers, motors, high bay lights, heaters, the office, canteen, FSUs and the list goes on.
You'll need more than two to do it in a day.
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ste77
Really?? i disagree, youve noted a list of problems that could indeed not be there. You could do that easily in a day between two people IMO
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Only got reception office 2 4post ramps 1 2post Ramp roller shutter door, 4-6 lighting circuits and toilet area
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Ah that sounds better. 2 blokes should bob that off in a day depending on the site. What size is it ? Easy access to everything ?
Dunno really as I never work a Sunday. Overtime rate for a pair for a day plus something for writing up time ?
Some lads on here say between £20 and £30 per circuit. Of course that's not Sunday rates though.
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